04-18-2003, 04:30 AM
Sorry, Occhi... didn't mean to step on whatever toe I happened to step on. CERTAINLY didn't mean to imply any tone other than frustration at the situation... and certainly nothing towards yourself. :unsure:
You were discussing lobbying groups and the efforts they exert towards the President... I was replying to that. I felt that my comments were dead on the topic at hand. Now, if you'd care to indicate to me where I "strayed", I'd be happy to both hear and reflect on your comments. If you're too caffienated to make that effort... then I'd request you calm down.
Let's see...
My comment on Powell's influence to Bush 41 was a fact. So I'll assume that this wasn't the sore issue.
My comment re: Bush 43's inability to make decisions? Hm. This might be it. Perhaps bringing that sidelong into the topic wasn't appropo. I stand by my assessment, but it might not have been the best thing to allude to for this conversation. If so; sorry.
My comment re: Goldwater? Well... I wasn't commenting on Goldwater at all. I was merely using your quote to reinforce the point that people who never run for election get ALOT of punch in Washington. I'd categorize both Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz as people that you'd never seen on a ballot... but are calling the shots. My opinion, certainly... but shared by many.
My comment about Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz being an "interest group"? Yeah, I can see you taking exception to that. My meaning was that these fellows are WAY up in the Administrative Food chain. I associate the term "interest group" with something like the NRA. They have their needed situation, want to see it addressed. Can you honestly say that a power-group like the PNAC is a interest group?
Anyway... for whatever reason I illicited that reply, I apologize for any misinterpretation... but it was YOUR reading of the tone. Surely I don't need to remind someone of your Forum Mileage of the dangers of perceived "tone".
*tips helm, anyway*
You were discussing lobbying groups and the efforts they exert towards the President... I was replying to that. I felt that my comments were dead on the topic at hand. Now, if you'd care to indicate to me where I "strayed", I'd be happy to both hear and reflect on your comments. If you're too caffienated to make that effort... then I'd request you calm down.
Let's see...
My comment on Powell's influence to Bush 41 was a fact. So I'll assume that this wasn't the sore issue.
My comment re: Bush 43's inability to make decisions? Hm. This might be it. Perhaps bringing that sidelong into the topic wasn't appropo. I stand by my assessment, but it might not have been the best thing to allude to for this conversation. If so; sorry.
My comment re: Goldwater? Well... I wasn't commenting on Goldwater at all. I was merely using your quote to reinforce the point that people who never run for election get ALOT of punch in Washington. I'd categorize both Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz as people that you'd never seen on a ballot... but are calling the shots. My opinion, certainly... but shared by many.
My comment about Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz being an "interest group"? Yeah, I can see you taking exception to that. My meaning was that these fellows are WAY up in the Administrative Food chain. I associate the term "interest group" with something like the NRA. They have their needed situation, want to see it addressed. Can you honestly say that a power-group like the PNAC is a interest group?
Anyway... for whatever reason I illicited that reply, I apologize for any misinterpretation... but it was YOUR reading of the tone. Surely I don't need to remind someone of your Forum Mileage of the dangers of perceived "tone".
*tips helm, anyway*
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If it has more than four legs, kill it immediately.
Never hesitate to put another bullet into the skull of the movie's main villain; it'll save time on the denouement.
Eight hours per day of children's TV programming can reduce a grown man to tears -- PM me for details.
If it has more than four legs, kill it immediately.
Never hesitate to put another bullet into the skull of the movie's main villain; it'll save time on the denouement.
Eight hours per day of children's TV programming can reduce a grown man to tears -- PM me for details.