Adariel Bug? What Andariel Bug?

[Occhidiangela]

I did some "enter" to organize your reply to me within the quote.

Wow...

1.  Thats a whole of venting don't you think Occhi? 

2.  In my opinion, the line between cheesing and cheating is very thin, and can be changed by the ideas of the player.  I think that the Terms of Use says exploiting a bug in the game is illegal and considered cheating.  Therefore, you have to determine what is a bug.  The Andy/Duriel bug IS a bug, and thus (if you want to feel good about yourself) can be fixed by leaving the game before you travel to the next act. 

3.   But to get a quest drop from a boss is not a difficult thing to do.  Personally, I have no problem with the bug and exploiting it to its fullest.  If you join a game where a certain act boss has not been killed, and you have not recieved that quest yet, the boss will drop as if it were a quest drop.  It's probably another bug in the game, but the case is still the same.

4.  I think it really depends on who you play with.  If you play on the realms with gobs of idiots and are looking for specific stuff that is not in the "norm" uber runeword class, go ahead and use the bug.  If you dont want to cheese, then don't.  If you play alone and are sick and tired of seeing all these incredibly rare items that you will NEVER see, go ahead and use the bug to try and get some.  If you are fine with your equipment now, then don't.  If you play with private games on the AB or other areas that are as anti-cheating as they come, dont bother.  There is no reason to use the bug to get stronger because everyone else is just as weak as you.

5.  To sum it all up, cheese if you want to.  The main goal is to have fun while respecting other people.

Seems I did a bit of venting myself...

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Point 1: No vent, it was a comment on the accusations of cheating within the previous discussion, with a personal anecdotes added about how some people would not know cheating if it hit them in the face.

Point 2: I find the assertion of a bug hard to believe. FWIW. I ran Hell Andy twice last night for the heck of it. She dropped utter garbage. No Green, gold, one yellow, and a couple of minor blue in two deaths. I had on around 140% MF, par for the course. What bug? The first one was for the initial quest, the second to see what the heck you folks are on about with a "bug."

When I finish the Act I Quest 6, I always talk to Warriv to go east, that I can remember. That is how the game is designed to be played. You talk to Warriv to open the cinematic and go East. See the Exclamation mark over his head. If you think that is cheating, amaze me. The game is supposed to progress from you killing Andy to speaking to the townsfolk, and Warriv's convo is what sends you East. I have been playing this game since release. This is the first I have ever heard that playing the game in the designed story sequence is a bug.

"If you want to feel good about yourself?" What are you talking about? The sense of "I am legit since I eschew exploiting bugs:" like the old Dual Wield Bug that I cited?


3. How is that a bug? If you join a game where a certain act boss has not been killed, and you have not recieved that quest yet, and you kill the boss, I would nope that the boss will drop as if it were a quest drop: it is. That is how the game is supposed to work: You don't have quest, you complete quest, you get quest credit. Bug: game crash when Lord De Seis uses his thief skill. Bug: Leap Attack causes vertical leap. Bug: Charge bug. Bug: Invulnerable leapers. Bug: 100% Crit if one point picked in Mastery. Bug. 100% crit with one point in Claw mastery. Bug.


4. Cheating when playing with other players . . . you don't seem to actually address. You seem to be referring to bug exploitation: do you mean such bugs/features like the old BG IM feature, or the old BH Conc bug/feature of 1.04/1.05/1.06 fame? Your post also seems to me to confuse item farming with cheating. I would hope we not get into that, as item farming is one of many attractions to the game for some folks.

You also seem to assert that the AB holds item farming as cheating?

I don't believe you.

Are you sure you meant to say what you did the way you did? I know what it is to post too quickly (caffeine addict here) and to not proof for meaning often enough. Been in that soup often enough.

We do agree that fun is where you find it, of course. :D

Occhi