I myself am about to start a priest for the horde.
Can anyone confirm Trolls have a racial spell called hex of weakness? Is it seperate from the warlock's Curse of Weakness? Can it stack? According to thottbot rank 6 hex of weakness gives -20 physical damage. This is like one rank less powerful Warlock's unspecced curse of weakness
Given that level 40 elites and most enemies my level 36 Warlock faced did anywhere from 70-150 damage, this 10% damage reduction was useful.
Its either this troll-specific hex of weakness, or undead's devouring plague, which in conjunction with vampire's embrace talent (which I plan to use) may tip the favor to priests.
So, what's typical damage? If Hex of weakness and curse of weakness can be stacked, that's up to 51 damage reduction off the bat--and in my experience after armor has taken into play. Does anyone have high enough level troll priests (for hex of weakness), and a warlock to test with? Can Hex of Weakness be justified?
Shaving that -15 dr as double digits % off total damage done to me and my crew was nothing to laugh at as a warlock.
Considering this is also instant cast, no cooldown, and much cheaper than devouring plague... which costs 3x mana, has 3 min cooldown, but does 1-to-1 damage ratio plus heals over time caster if it isn't resisted . . . makes Hex of Weakness look tempting.
So, how signifigant is that damage reduction guys?
Additionally, does spirit tap work if your team does the killing, but you only wand-tap the beast? I highly doubt priests would get finishing blow consistently.
As I've typically worked with undead (for the) Horde priests as an Orc Warlock, I've come to believe in shadow talent survival skills too, and came up with this build:
Shadow Mastery
Blackout Rank 5
Shadow Affinity Rank 5
Shadow Focus Rank 5
Improved Psychic Scream Rank 2
Mind Flay Rank 1
Improved Fade Rank 2
Silence Rank 1
Shadow Weaving Rank 2
Vampiric Embrace Rank 1
Shadow Total: 24
Note the improved psychic scream for AoE fear, and Mind flay (channeled slow enemy 50% for 3 seconds). Fade and mindflay rocked both keeping the enemy away and keeping the enemy from retreating (which is always a problem, PvP too). Watching from warlock perspective, I saw my priest parter's Mind flay as a leash or a lion tamer's whip to keep the enemy at bay for just a little longer while DoT took effect.
Playing a VW-affiction warlock, fear was used whenever there was room to manuever. Some teammates (warriors mostly) didn't appreciate the adds it made (I don't fear as much in instances or thick mob groups), but they do not understand the combination of how slow and squishy my cloth user is (even with healthstone + alchemy pots), and that I can DoT kill by running away at a distance. Much safer to keep distance with fear as WL. I'm going to try that as a priest.
Vampire's embrace: 1 minute duration, 20 second cooldown, heals 20% of damage done to enemy. Given there are a number of instant cast DoT spells
Discipline Mastery
Unbreakable Will Rank 5 or Silent Resolve rank 5
Martyrdom Rank 2
Improved Power Word: Fortitude Rank 2
Focused Casting Rank 1
Improved Mana Burn Rank 2
Discipline Total: 12
I'm seriously considering Unbreakable will for silent resolve's 20% threat reduction to damage. Given my shadow priest will be dishing DoT spells /w Vampirc embrace in addition to healing. . . might just be worth it. I cannot ignore how useful resisting fear/stun is, but 15%. . . its life or death tradeoff. Given this is a shadow priest... I'll probably have silent resolve for day-to-day damage threat reduction.
Holy Mastery
Improved Renew Rank 5
Spiritual Healing Rank 5
Subtlety Rank 5
Holy Total: 15
Basic healing adds and healing threat reduction.
Short of it all: I refuse to be pidgeon-holed into healbot. I want a stealth healer. DoT damage/healing through Vampiric Embrace passive healing, with fear and threat level control skills.
Thoughts? Comments? Criticisms?
I know people will say both "But you should really try to play the class" before you comment on it and "play your priest this way, healbot! we don't want shadow users here". Well, due to racial based skills, I need to ask before I get whiny, and has anyone actually tried actively using vampire's embrace? Hmm? Haven't heard too many reports. Given this is the lurker lounge, I do not expect the healbot comment except in jest. Some like healbots, I'm not one. My warlock was a tactician controlling the pace of the battle through VW pet minion drawing enemies, Curses adding damage, reducing damage, and controlling fear. Warlocks can induce fear or prevent fear in enemies (Curse of recklessness) so they run or do not run away. I expect to create a lot more control with my priests. Master healer? Nope. Stealth healer, yes. Max fear and fade out.
Profession wise: Herbalism, but only maybe alchemy. I'll leave other guildmates to invest in alchemy recipes, while feeding them necessary herbs for themselves. Second primary profession unknown right now. Maybe mining, maybe something else. First Aid definitely needed for secondary. I'll definitely enjoy having mana pots by my side.
Can anyone confirm Trolls have a racial spell called hex of weakness? Is it seperate from the warlock's Curse of Weakness? Can it stack? According to thottbot rank 6 hex of weakness gives -20 physical damage. This is like one rank less powerful Warlock's unspecced curse of weakness
Given that level 40 elites and most enemies my level 36 Warlock faced did anywhere from 70-150 damage, this 10% damage reduction was useful.
Its either this troll-specific hex of weakness, or undead's devouring plague, which in conjunction with vampire's embrace talent (which I plan to use) may tip the favor to priests.
So, what's typical damage? If Hex of weakness and curse of weakness can be stacked, that's up to 51 damage reduction off the bat--and in my experience after armor has taken into play. Does anyone have high enough level troll priests (for hex of weakness), and a warlock to test with? Can Hex of Weakness be justified?
Shaving that -15 dr as double digits % off total damage done to me and my crew was nothing to laugh at as a warlock.
Considering this is also instant cast, no cooldown, and much cheaper than devouring plague... which costs 3x mana, has 3 min cooldown, but does 1-to-1 damage ratio plus heals over time caster if it isn't resisted . . . makes Hex of Weakness look tempting.
So, how signifigant is that damage reduction guys?
Additionally, does spirit tap work if your team does the killing, but you only wand-tap the beast? I highly doubt priests would get finishing blow consistently.
As I've typically worked with undead (for the) Horde priests as an Orc Warlock, I've come to believe in shadow talent survival skills too, and came up with this build:
Shadow Mastery
Blackout Rank 5
Shadow Affinity Rank 5
Shadow Focus Rank 5
Improved Psychic Scream Rank 2
Mind Flay Rank 1
Improved Fade Rank 2
Silence Rank 1
Shadow Weaving Rank 2
Vampiric Embrace Rank 1
Shadow Total: 24
Note the improved psychic scream for AoE fear, and Mind flay (channeled slow enemy 50% for 3 seconds). Fade and mindflay rocked both keeping the enemy away and keeping the enemy from retreating (which is always a problem, PvP too). Watching from warlock perspective, I saw my priest parter's Mind flay as a leash or a lion tamer's whip to keep the enemy at bay for just a little longer while DoT took effect.
Playing a VW-affiction warlock, fear was used whenever there was room to manuever. Some teammates (warriors mostly) didn't appreciate the adds it made (I don't fear as much in instances or thick mob groups), but they do not understand the combination of how slow and squishy my cloth user is (even with healthstone + alchemy pots), and that I can DoT kill by running away at a distance. Much safer to keep distance with fear as WL. I'm going to try that as a priest.
Vampire's embrace: 1 minute duration, 20 second cooldown, heals 20% of damage done to enemy. Given there are a number of instant cast DoT spells
Discipline Mastery
Unbreakable Will Rank 5 or Silent Resolve rank 5
Martyrdom Rank 2
Improved Power Word: Fortitude Rank 2
Focused Casting Rank 1
Improved Mana Burn Rank 2
Discipline Total: 12
I'm seriously considering Unbreakable will for silent resolve's 20% threat reduction to damage. Given my shadow priest will be dishing DoT spells /w Vampirc embrace in addition to healing. . . might just be worth it. I cannot ignore how useful resisting fear/stun is, but 15%. . . its life or death tradeoff. Given this is a shadow priest... I'll probably have silent resolve for day-to-day damage threat reduction.
Holy Mastery
Improved Renew Rank 5
Spiritual Healing Rank 5
Subtlety Rank 5
Holy Total: 15
Basic healing adds and healing threat reduction.
Short of it all: I refuse to be pidgeon-holed into healbot. I want a stealth healer. DoT damage/healing through Vampiric Embrace passive healing, with fear and threat level control skills.
Thoughts? Comments? Criticisms?
I know people will say both "But you should really try to play the class" before you comment on it and "play your priest this way, healbot! we don't want shadow users here". Well, due to racial based skills, I need to ask before I get whiny, and has anyone actually tried actively using vampire's embrace? Hmm? Haven't heard too many reports. Given this is the lurker lounge, I do not expect the healbot comment except in jest. Some like healbots, I'm not one. My warlock was a tactician controlling the pace of the battle through VW pet minion drawing enemies, Curses adding damage, reducing damage, and controlling fear. Warlocks can induce fear or prevent fear in enemies (Curse of recklessness) so they run or do not run away. I expect to create a lot more control with my priests. Master healer? Nope. Stealth healer, yes. Max fear and fade out.
Profession wise: Herbalism, but only maybe alchemy. I'll leave other guildmates to invest in alchemy recipes, while feeding them necessary herbs for themselves. Second primary profession unknown right now. Maybe mining, maybe something else. First Aid definitely needed for secondary. I'll definitely enjoy having mana pots by my side.