Tips for losing weight
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Iolair,Feb 5 2005, 02:22 AM Wrote:But I wonder about your numbers. You said normal people can only change about +/- 10% of our cholesterol level by diet change. This does not correspond to what I have seen in my own life,  what I have observed from patients and what dietician and doctors have informated me about. So I was hoping you could elaborate on the estimate. I don't ask to argue, but more out of curiosity.
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Hi Iolair,

well... Arhus, Denmark... I'll simply assume that there's a certain chance that German might be one of your foreign languages, as I don't think that there's an English translation available:

"Die Cholesterinlüge", by Walter Hartenbach

http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3776...6530530-5763743

I haven't checked the numbers, but from my own experience, genetic disposition plays the major role in total blood cholesterol and NOT diet. During my worst days (300 pounds at 6'3) I had a total blood cholesterol of under 100. My Aunt, who's thin as a twig, took colesterol antagonists because no diet she ever tried would get her below 300...

There's alot of biased studies around (especially the ancient, IIRC Norwegian, one that started all the "cholesterol causes heart disease" craze, where they simply omitted the entire control group) and billions in monetary interest involved.

Btw: not ALL people cannot affect their blood cholesterol significantly by dietary changes, but a very large group. I think it was 3/4 of Europeans, but it's been a while since I read the thing :blush:
Also, "normal" dietary changes were referred to, not extreme misnourishment in the one or other direction. But omitting eggs and butter for most people won't change a thing.

Btw.: another book I can recommend:
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3492...6530530-5763743
"Lexikon der populären Ernährungsirrtümer" by Udo Pollmer & Susanne Warmuth
also no English version I think

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