Hunter = Ultimate Puller?
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lemekim,Jan 8 2005, 03:59 AM Wrote:As Olon said above, warriors NEED the initial beatdown to get rage to effectively crowd control the mobs. This is why often warriors prefer to charge into mobs if situation permits; they get both initial aggro and extra rage. If the hunter pulls 3 mobs, how the warrior is going to get them all off him without rage? He can use bloodrage for a shout, but that costs life, which costs mana to priest, which also means more aggro generated, etc.

The Big Red Arrow ™ is not enough to make hunter the best puller. It will take either an ability to transfer aggro to tank, or an ability to pull single mobs even when the mobs are within bring-a-friend range of each other. As it stands now, hunters really have no other role then a filler in high-end instances.

Interesting read, but it seems the author needs to play a tank or priest to understand their point of view. Oh, and doesn't feint death cause rez sickness? I would rather prefer to resurrect the puller and deal with durability loss then have to deal with half-able group member.
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Disengage means that the hunter loses his target and a regular swing from the warrior should pull and hold aggro.

Feign Death does not cause res sickness from what I have read (I'll have it in a few more levels to verify).

Blood rage is so overwhelmed by the passive heal (the HoT spells) that it really doesn't count because the warrior is going to get that spell cast on him anyway, and the HoT's are low aggro generators anyway. I haven't played a warrior in a high level instance but I don't buy the "I have to have the rage to pull aggro" from what I have seen. Taunt doesn't take rage, and it will pull aggro. Bloodrage, taunt the monster that was hit, demorilize shout and they are all on you, because the hunter lost aggro with his skills. Warriors have more options for pulling group aggro than thunderclap and sunder armor. So up to the mid levels I see no issue with the warrior getting aggro back from a hunter pull at all. That was part of the point of the article is that some warriors don't seem to know how to change their stripes and be flexible.

Edit: Fixed that first sentence so you could read it and cleared a few more typos.
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Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Refrigerator - 01-07-2005, 06:40 AM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Treesh - 01-07-2005, 11:53 AM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by ehertlein - 01-07-2005, 02:37 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Tal - 01-07-2005, 03:19 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Treesh - 01-07-2005, 03:35 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by DarkCrown - 01-07-2005, 04:13 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Treesh - 01-07-2005, 04:16 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Kevin - 01-07-2005, 05:03 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Quark - 01-07-2005, 05:06 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Treesh - 01-07-2005, 05:22 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Xanthix - 01-07-2005, 05:41 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Olon97 - 01-07-2005, 06:46 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Tal - 01-07-2005, 06:50 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Artega - 01-07-2005, 09:55 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Ruvanal - 01-07-2005, 10:15 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Thecla - 01-07-2005, 10:33 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by vor_lord - 01-07-2005, 11:40 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Artega - 01-08-2005, 03:52 AM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by lemekim - 01-08-2005, 09:59 AM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Kevin - 01-08-2005, 01:50 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Tal - 01-08-2005, 02:01 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Ruvanal - 01-08-2005, 02:11 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Tal - 01-08-2005, 02:19 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Kevin - 01-08-2005, 02:27 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Olon97 - 01-08-2005, 08:06 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Sir_Die_alot - 01-08-2005, 09:23 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by lemekim - 01-08-2005, 10:49 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by KiloVictor - 01-10-2005, 06:43 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by bschultz - 01-11-2005, 05:31 AM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Treesh - 01-11-2005, 02:24 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by bschultz - 01-11-2005, 05:06 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Treesh - 01-11-2005, 05:55 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by lemekim - 01-11-2005, 09:07 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Ruvanal - 01-11-2005, 10:12 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Treesh - 01-11-2005, 10:23 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Bolty - 01-11-2005, 11:23 PM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by lemekim - 01-12-2005, 01:17 AM
Hunter = Ultimate Puller? - by Caline - 01-13-2005, 02:09 PM

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