01-06-2005, 12:36 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-06-2005, 12:41 AM by Occhidiangela.)
Catlyn,Jan 5 2005, 03:57 PM Wrote:I didn't post to the lounge before I was a member of the guild.
Want I should leave?
Don't wanna stay where I'm not wanted.
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For what it's worth: One of the finer nuances of the Lurker Lounge is that Lurking is a highly desired activity by many members. Lurking, as in dropping by but not posting.
This raises the question of how to quantify a Lurking event, versus a Posting event, which leaves a rather obvious footprint. *mumble bloody Occhi and 3000 bloody posts mumble*.
Since neither Bolty, nor Gris, nor Mongo, nor Lemming, nor Refrigerator, nor I, nor anyone I can think of (Mav, I don't see you signing up to be the Thought Police!) have the time or inclination to emulate secret police who snoop at site access, read only as it were, and then archive and post stats to determine if anyone in particular rates a minimum participation score, the answer is "we won't be able to measure that."
This takes us back to the challenge in Mongo Jerry's stated aim, that of maintaining a solid rep and an aim that I endorse. The idea proposed is that the site and the Guild take the Lounge as the Egg and the game activity as the chicken. (Assuming of course that the egg came first in that old chetsnut, the inconsiderate pig!)
The key guiding principle that Mongo Jerry has provided is that anyone bearing the tag "Lurker Lounge" wear it well. I cannot agree more. I for one am not about to wander about Stormrage flaming and griefing people, nor ninja looting, s that will advertise the Lounge negatively. The tension in this discussion is what level of risk we as a group of friends, who love to play and BS together in the WoW context, are willing to take regarding the odds that a new fresh face "seems fairer but is fouler" than first impressions indicate.
Risk and trust.
You trust your friends. How to welcome a new member into a circle of friends is a fascinating human dynamic. Friends can also have falling outs. No one likes that.
I will suggest that we, collectively, are going through a "storming, forming, norming, performing" process as the Lounge takes on some, but not all, elements of a Guild-like social entity. The WoW Loungers are induced to depart from old Lounge habit on that score due to the advantages that accrue from a WoW game mechanics perspective.
We were NOT a Guild in Diablo nor Diablo II, the seminal games we obsessed over initially.
We were a center of excellence. That too is a guiding principle, per Bolty's vision.
Time for another pull on the Guinness, that was yet again verbose.
Occhi
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In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
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John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete
In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete