Poll: Which bow to use.
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150%ed lysanders with shael (gives me 9/2) no KB
72.73%
8 72.73%
rare matriarchal, 85% ed, fools, (8/2) with knockback
27.27%
3 27.27%
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Bows for strafe/FA zon
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Quote:-EDIT- I realized two important things AFTER posting this and re-reading it three times and realizing something was still not right: 1.) Nicodemus Phaulkon's post was not directed at me but at people who do not co-operativly play. 2.) He did say that "Thus, it has been my experience that," meaning more or less that it is he opinion, not neccessarily a FACT as I deemed it. Apparently I am the one with egg on my face and I have to appologize, Nicodemus, for my harsh reaction to your post.

*shrugs* I'm blunt. To a fault, most days. I can appreciate where you saw a personal barb. No harm, no foul.

Quote:I am not telling you what to type or how to act, but I feel offended that you consider me a “clueless” co-op player just because I stated my opinion on knockback. Your opinions are awfully one-sided considering you don’t even know me.

My opinions, as you realized, were not formed against your claims, but from over 2.5 years of playing as/with Knockback 'zons from a population base of over 40 players. From Act 1 of Normal through to the repetative slaughter that is Hell Cows, Knockback 'zons that I've known have understood their place and their strength. However, I'm spoiled in that regard. These are people that understand how to make a threat move, not move, or disappear... whichever best benefits a party.

I've always considered playing a 'zon akin to ranged fencing: different techniques for different situations. A fencer doesn't stop the match to switch his gloves or his foil... he simply adapts his technique to compensate and overcome his opponent. I consider the 'zon's usage of her multiple skills, all with the same weapon, a similar task.

Quote:Perhaps I have just been unfortunate enough to only play with MA spamming monster killing hogs, but this has been my experience nonetheless, and I can't deny that, nor can you convince me otherwise by telling me that it is "my" style of play that is wrong.

Not so much that a style is "wrong", but just not beneficial to the group. Then again, one can hardly find a beneficial cooperative style when you're dealing with morons in the game.

Quote:I have felt nothing but frustration when playing with knockback Amazons, and besides, I've played pre 1.04 and now in 1.09 just fine without any knockback, so I consider your statement of knockback being “indispensable” not only obsolete, but a falsehood.

Perhaps "indispensable" was too broad a term. "Smart" comes to mind. I've had this KBack debate several times in the past. It comes down to basics, eventually (Like if you appreciate running your ass off from Fanated Frenzytaurs or Convicted LEBs, or pushing them into a far corner for quick reparations). Certainly one can play without KBack... but I certainly wouldn't advise it.

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Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Saga_Keeper - 04-06-2003, 10:16 PM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by ALnitak - 04-07-2003, 06:07 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Taem - 04-07-2003, 06:20 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 04-07-2003, 07:12 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by CorwinBrute - 04-07-2003, 07:43 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Saga_Keeper - 04-07-2003, 07:43 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by LavCat - 04-07-2003, 08:24 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Saga_Keeper - 04-07-2003, 09:00 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by ALnitak - 04-07-2003, 02:44 PM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Taem - 04-07-2003, 10:55 PM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 04-08-2003, 03:13 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by LavCat - 04-08-2003, 03:53 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Elric of Grans - 04-08-2003, 04:07 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Saga_Keeper - 04-08-2003, 07:43 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by XOblivionX - 04-10-2003, 02:43 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Saga_Keeper - 04-10-2003, 09:22 PM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Walkiry - 04-11-2003, 09:31 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Saga_Keeper - 04-12-2003, 11:21 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Occhidiangela - 04-14-2003, 06:27 PM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Saga_Keeper - 04-15-2003, 05:45 PM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by vor_lord - 04-16-2003, 01:40 AM
Bows for strafe/FA zon - by Agent - 05-11-2003, 09:19 PM

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