The Rogue's Gallery
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Quote:With talents a rogue using dual daggers with poison will out DPS a sword/dagger, sword/sword, and even sword/mace combos because the faster the attacks the more poison procs.
Don't be so sure. :) When I was playing my Rogue during the beta test I was using a 2.8ish speed sword in her main hand because it did roughly twice as much damage, per hit, as her daggers did. I was using Sinister Strike a LOT and that meant that I was getting almost as many extra attacks as I did normal attacks.

Here's an example to compare the two. Imagine a dagger that does 15 damage per hit at 1.3 and a sword that does 30 damage per hit at 2.6. Here's how the damage would compare over a given time interval:

Over 2.6 seconds the damage from the weapons would be the following:
dagger - 15 + 15 = 30 damage
sword - 30 damage

However, if you assume you can get off two sinister strikes in that period (say at the beginning of a battle), then you get sinister strike damage as follows:
dagger - 15 + 15 = 30 damage
sword - 30 + 30 = 60 damage

So, overall, the sword would be doing 30 more damage than the dagger.

Of course, this ignores the effects of using poison and such, but remember that, for some reason or another, not all rogues use poison and they might not want to put their talents into subtlety in order to increase their poison damage. In addition, I'm pretty sure Rogues have a talent where, with a mace, they can gain the ability to stun the things they attacks (I might be wrong... not at MY computer right now so I don't have the links to the talent calculator I use). This can turn a battle easily toward a rogue's advantage.

Finally, remember that with a sword or mace in the main hand, there's no reason why a rogue can't use a nice fast dagger in their off-hand so they can make use of poison's damage there to get the nice poison effects there, if they so desire. :)

I just thought I'd throw some numbers into this thread as an example since I have seen plenty of rogues that could dish out insane amounts of damage with a non-dagger in their main hand. It all comes down to the question, did the Rogue plan to use that weapon all along or are they just randomly using a non-dagger because it was new and shiny. In the first case, they'll probably dish out damage like crazy, but in the second case, probably less so.
-TheDragoon
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The Rogue's Gallery - by Occhidiangela - 12-03-2004, 10:16 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Cryptic - 12-13-2004, 05:15 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Tal - 12-13-2004, 05:43 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Treesh - 12-13-2004, 06:33 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by TheDragoon - 12-13-2004, 06:56 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Guest - 12-13-2004, 07:04 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Occhidiangela - 12-13-2004, 07:34 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Treesh - 12-13-2004, 08:36 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Tal - 12-13-2004, 08:48 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Treesh - 12-13-2004, 08:51 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Arnath - 12-13-2004, 09:38 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Tal - 12-13-2004, 09:56 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Guest - 12-14-2004, 07:05 AM
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The Rogue's Gallery - by Tal - 12-14-2004, 12:24 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Guest - 12-14-2004, 02:36 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Tal - 12-14-2004, 04:01 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by TheDragoon - 12-14-2004, 05:43 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Treesh - 12-14-2004, 05:53 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Quark - 12-24-2004, 12:12 AM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Tal - 12-24-2004, 12:42 AM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Guest - 12-28-2004, 03:57 AM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Concillian - 01-04-2005, 02:20 AM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Concillian - 01-04-2005, 03:14 AM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Malakar - 01-04-2005, 07:19 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Concillian - 01-04-2005, 08:46 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Occhidiangela - 01-06-2005, 05:13 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Concillian - 01-06-2005, 08:39 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Occhidiangela - 01-06-2005, 09:19 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Dezz - 01-06-2005, 09:43 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Occhidiangela - 01-06-2005, 09:57 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Concillian - 01-06-2005, 11:03 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Malakar - 01-07-2005, 07:41 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Concillian - 01-07-2005, 10:23 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Guest - 01-07-2005, 11:24 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Malakar - 01-08-2005, 01:07 AM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Malakar - 01-08-2005, 01:35 AM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Occhidiangela - 01-10-2005, 03:25 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Concillian - 01-11-2005, 01:16 AM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Roland - 01-18-2005, 11:21 AM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Concillian - 01-18-2005, 10:32 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Roland - 01-19-2005, 01:29 AM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Roland - 01-19-2005, 07:58 AM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Concillian - 01-19-2005, 08:01 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Kevin - 01-19-2005, 10:44 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Concillian - 01-19-2005, 11:18 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Roland - 01-20-2005, 06:15 AM
The Rogue's Gallery - by vor_lord - 01-20-2005, 03:16 PM
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The Rogue's Gallery - by Concillian - 01-20-2005, 08:19 PM
The Rogue's Gallery - by Roland - 01-22-2005, 01:16 AM
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