Bows for strafe/FA zon

[Taem]

I've played as both a melee character with KBing amazon partners, and as a KBing Amazon with melee partners.

Knockback is an indespensible tool for a 'zon.  It accomplishes a lot of answers for a lack of Defense rating and a lack of resistances that a Bowazon invariably has.  Keeping an MSLEB pinned to a wall, and out of the range of his sparks, is a good thing for ALL involved.

Thus, it has been my experience that people who detest Knockback are invariably people who have no idea how to adapt themselves in a multi-player gaming environment.  They protest against the Ranged attackers' Knockback ability because they have no idea how to cooperatively act with its benefit.  They have no idea how to assume a different role without it being "attack everything that moves".  The same could be said if the Knockback 'zon is spamming Multishot in every direction at once.  They obviously cannot/will not accept how to cooperate within a multiplayer situation. 

In essence:  both parties haven't a bloody clue how to play the game.

*tips helm*

-EDIT- I realized two important things AFTER posting this and re-reading it three times and realizing something was still not right: 1.) Nicodemus Phaulkon's post was not directed at me but at people who do not co-operativly play. 2.) He did say that "Thus, it has been my experience that," meaning more or less that it is he opinion, not neccessarily a FACT as I deemed it. Apparently I am the one with egg on my face and I have to appologize, Nicodemus, for my harsh reaction to your post. It was unwarrented and you deserve more respect than that. Sorry for my mal-judgement. I will leave the original post here for comments, since my opinion of knockback + Amazons has not changed.

-ORIGINAL- First off, I just want to state that I totally respect your “opinions”, but I don't like it when you state something as fact by saying THEY do this and THEY do that instead of saying, “in my opinion.” I am not telling you what to type or how to act, but I feel offended that you consider me a “clueless” co-op player just because I stated my opinion on knockback. Your opinions are awfully one-sided considering you don’t even know me.

They protest against the Ranged attackers' Knockback ability because they have no idea how to cooperatively act with its benefit. They have no idea how to assume a different role without it being "attack everything that moves".

I find what you say mostly intriguing because it is my experience, also from having played all classes in all difficulties like you, that most of these knockback Amazons are indeed “trying” to be helpful, however most of the time end up pushing away all my targets. I am hardly a monster killing hog as I prefer a co-op play style, even with my amazons, but when I try an gather a mob of monsters, be it in act I through act 5, I’ve had knockback Amazons inevitably blast my mob all over the screen. This is especially irking when playing a paladin and trying desperately to zeal a monster and having it shot further and further away. I believe my most memorable experiences are in act 3, always a melee friend any myself hacking our way to Travincial when one or two Amazons party up, take our Town Portal, then start spamming MA all over the place. We frantically run to even get a single kill, but atlas, we cannot. What makes it worse is that it seems at least 50% of the time the Amazons spamming MA have such a weak damage that the monsters seem to regenerate faster than the Amazons deal damage, yet however clueless the “helpful” Amazon believes she is, will continue to spam MA relentlessly.

Perhaps I have just been unfortunate enough to only play with MA spamming monster killing hogs, but this has been my experience nonetheless, and I can't deny that, nor can you convince me otherwise by telling me that it is "my" style of play that is wrong. I have felt nothing but frustration when playing with knockback Amazons, and besides, I've played pre 1.04 and now in 1.09 just fine without any knockback, so I consider your statement of knockback being “indispensable” not only obsolete, but a falsehood.

I feel like I may get egg in my face for taking what you said the wrong way, and I don't want to sound like a brute. Often stating ones opinion is a delicate matter and I've had my share of misunderstandings. I do, however, want to thank you for presenting me with 'the other side' of the argument, as I'd be stupid not to consider all possibilities. I believe you have some valid points from your experiences with those you have played with, and I admire your gaming groups. Until our next conversation.