12-13-2004, 05:21 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-13-2004, 05:22 AM by Occhidiangela.)
Simple: There is a quality cut after high school. Even as lax as entry may seem, you have to compete to get into university. Also, it aint cheap to run a university.
The min requirements are provided for by the State. The rest boils down to "How bad do you want it?" If you don't want it, for sure don't pay for it and waste everyone's time.
Higher education is not an entitlement. It's more like a sewer: You get out of it depends a great deal on what you put into it.
Occhi
The min requirements are provided for by the State. The rest boils down to "How bad do you want it?" If you don't want it, for sure don't pay for it and waste everyone's time.
Higher education is not an entitlement. It's more like a sewer: You get out of it depends a great deal on what you put into it.
Occhi
Bob,Dec 12 2004, 04:19 PM Wrote:£1150 per year, of which potenetially all of it can be payed by your LEA (Local Education Authority) it's means-tested.
oh, and ~ £3000 a year in student loan, which you have to pay back with an effective 0 interest rate (interest rate is the same as inflation, so assuming the job that you end up in increases it's wages in line with inflation...)
Add to that all the living costs, which are obscene if you don't live at home like I do.
Of course, there's talk of 'top-up fees', which would be up to another £3000 per year, but would be collected with the loan after you graduate.
Of course, the tuition fees at the moment are somewhat ridiculous, you have to pay them upfront by the mid autumn term. You only get £1000 of your loan by then (although due to a minor fiasco this year, some people hadn't recieved their loans). So if you have to pay the full whack of £1150 you have to find £150 somewhere else, and find money for acommodation (about £60 - £70 /week), food, books, paper & pens, printing, photocopying, etc.
Clever plan, really.
So, I sympathise with my fellow British students who have to cope with that sort of thing (I've not spent any of my loan yet [like I say, I live at home, and my parents very kindly covered the portion of the tuition fees that I owed], and don't intend to if I can help it). And (look, if Roald Dahl can start a sentence with 'and' so can I) the US students, it seems a whole lot worse, and the fact that the 'good' universities charge more - nothing like only rich people getting into the top universities to bring the cream to the top...
How come education is free and optional from ages 16-18, but from 18+ you have to pay?
-Bob
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In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete