Cheating ethics

[Jarulf]

Okay fair enough, however if you used a 3rd party program to show you the calculated damage, cap on absorption, diminishing returns on Magic Find, monster levels or area levels then you'd be cheating.  There's no two-ways around that fact!  That was my point and I think that if you had read my post in context (directed at Whathuh), then you would of understood this.  Even in the portion you quoted it states "ON BATTLE.NET... IN GAME".  Sure you can see find the monster levels by checking the Arret Summit and then you'll know the item level by doing that, but for some reason or another (let me reiterate), Blizzard DOES NOT want you to know the Item Levels in game!!!  So is my point clear enough now?
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So, if someone else uses such a program to get the values and then tell you or post them somewere it is suddenly not cheating? I don't see the difference, all those things I mentioned and many more are used on bnet as well. Exactly HOW you get the information is quite irrelevant in my opinion.

The main reason you can't see the level values are not in my opnion that they don't want it, it is because it is an abstract value and Blizzard tend to only show name and direct effects of things in game. The same why you don't see the level of a monster in game. The reason you can list monster levels at a site is because they don't change, the level you talk about for an item is individual for each specific item so you can't make lists for it. There is no big meeting with decisions and official policy setting on how it is meant to be at Blizzzard deciding that that level is a secret and players should not now it, while the monster level is not a secret but we will only tell on our website.

So no, there is no point in my opinion or it is not a good one, hence my initial reply.