Unique hunting resource help?
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Kasreyn,Sep 17 2004, 10:51 AM Wrote:Since a unique's ilvl determines whether a monster of a given mlvl can drop it (to my knowledge), it would seem to follow that I should line up a list of all uniques by ilvl next to a list of all monsters by mlvl, and see what falls where.
This is a common misconception.
There are actually two requirements for monster X to drop item A. It must be able to drop the base item, which means its top treasure class must be as high as the base item's TC, and it must have mlvl at lest as high as the unique/set item's level.

This effectively sets up a 2-dimensional space, rather than a simple list, which is... a lot harder to draw.

As an example, Hell Pindleskin can drop all base items (TC87) but is only mlvl 86. Hell Mephisto can only drop up to TC78 but is mlvl 87.
Arachnid Mesh is a unique TC63 Spiderweb Sash, but is level 87. Both Pindle and Meph can drop Spiderweb Sashes but only Meph can drop the unique one.
Windofrce is a unique TC87 Hydra Bow which is level 80. Only Pindle can drop Hydra Bows and therefore Windforce, even though Meph would be able to drop a unique one if he could.

I am a more nuts and bolts person so I refer to the raw lists
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/tokusanya/11...110_full_tc.txt for item TCs and levels
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/tokusanya/Monsters.htm for monster max TCs and mlvls
All the information you need is there to answer a given "can drop?" question.

However, if you have an Excel viewer, a much prettier compilation of all that information is available here:
http://members.shaw.ca/KurganXXL/D2/WhatCa...FromUniques.xls
Thanks to Kurgan.

[edit] ah, too slow as usual. By the way, a general rule of thumb is to hunt at a monster whose top TC is two TCs above the item you are looking for, that is more or less where the TC distribution peaks.
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Unique hunting resource help? - by Kasreyn - 09-17-2004, 09:57 AM
Unique hunting resource help? - by brianc84 - 09-17-2004, 03:21 PM
Unique hunting resource help? - by Thrugg - 09-17-2004, 03:29 PM
Unique hunting resource help? - by Kasreyn - 09-18-2004, 06:38 AM
Unique hunting resource help? - by adeyke - 09-18-2004, 07:14 AM
Unique hunting resource help? - by Raven Vale - 09-18-2004, 09:03 AM
Unique hunting resource help? - by bernard shakey - 09-23-2004, 12:31 PM
Unique hunting resource help? - by Zingydex - 09-29-2004, 02:02 PM
Unique hunting resource help? - by adeyke - 09-29-2004, 06:26 PM
Unique hunting resource help? - by Zingydex - 09-29-2004, 08:43 PM
Unique hunting resource help? - by Count Duckula - 09-30-2004, 01:08 AM
Unique hunting resource help? - by vmxa - 10-02-2004, 04:20 PM
Unique hunting resource help? - by adeyke - 10-02-2004, 04:29 PM
Unique hunting resource help? - by vmxa - 10-02-2004, 07:16 PM
Unique hunting resource help? - by whathuh - 10-06-2004, 09:40 PM
Unique hunting resource help? - by vmxa - 10-07-2004, 12:25 AM

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