eppie,Aug 31 2004, 11:13 AM Wrote:Time ago a research in Germany (a country where I'm not from :D ) showed, that 25 % of the germans thought Bush had soemthing to do with the 9/11 attacks. And that was pre Michael Moore's fahrenheit911.Just a little correction there (we germans are not that much into conspiracy).
The poll you refer to was conducted by a german Newspaper and it was the result of a Report on the Security Briefing George W. Bush received on August 6th, 2001 titeled "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the USA" an detailing that he was planning to attack America by hijacking Planes. Most importantly it did not have 25% stating that Bush "had something to do with the 9/11 attack" but that he was at least partialy to blame for it as he did not respond to that report as he should have done.
ah and @kandrathe:
as you just love to quote from that odd piece of writing (aka Final Report of the 9/11 Commission), I would like to provide you with two more dates that strangely did not make their way into the report:
1997 Taliban officials meet with Unocal and Halleburton (at that time headed by our one and only Dick Cheney) Executives in ... dada ... Texas (at this time governed by good old Goerge W.)
not too interesting that is, but this one is better:
March 19th, 2001 Sayed Rahmatullah Hashimi (a Taliban Minister) is invited to the State Department to improve relations
Now according to you logic (and that briliant one of the authors of the 9/11 Report) would you belive the US govenment was "connected to" or "supporting" the taliban regime...of course not US Industry and Government are the good guys...
You see my point is that despite the haze of "I have no recollection of that" and mist of "we could not prove" that enshrouds the Report you still state it's findings as ultimate facts, while they to some extend are not only vague but at least borderlineish wrong (see our last little discussion for a couple of examples)
But I guess there is no point argueing with you about that Report as you seem to know it by heart and one who spends the time to memorize a piece of writing like that will not likely accept any critics on it.
Anyway, it seems to me this is another time for me to resume my Cassandra (greek mythology) Role as I did way back before the War started in the first place (here):
What do I think will happen if the Bush administration wins the Election?
In Iraq people will not receive the means to be able to rebuild the country by themselves (and in the process of doing so gaining enough self confidence to withstand extremists...we Germans learned that lesson well; Marshall Plan anyone?) but instead heavy weight Multi-Million-Dollar Companys (mostly those who funded Bush's Campaign) will do the rebuilding (and in the process draining mucho Money out of the country)just as it at the moment. End Result: Iraq will be a paradise for Terrorist Recruiters to fill their ranks.
In the US the richer will get richer, the poorer will get poorer. More "outsourcing" of already healthy companys to maximize profits. Further isolation from the international Community (I don't think the "either with us or with the terrorists" attitude is a thing that any sovereign country [maybe apart from the UK] is likely to accept). The education will suffer from the cuts in funding reducing the education of the average people. The Health system will grow even worse (how high is the percentage of people in the US that do not have Health Insurance already?).
Call me a sceptic but the current admistration has not shown any sign of not acting like stated above...
[end Cassandra Mode]
Well, enough for now, have to stop to get a fright out of the Republicans' Convention.. :ph34r:
Greetings Dave
Edit:
Had to add my first real big scare: Arnold stating something about the UN not knowing what democracy is and the whole crowd started cheering USA, USA... man so much for my fear of further isolation under Bush.
I am not trying to post like a Wanker but my english has a pretty strong krautish influence.
Feel free to flame the content but give me some slack on spelling an grammar, thanks
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