08-31-2004, 06:04 AM
Sir_Die_alot,Aug 30 2004, 04:52 PM Wrote:If you like that one, there is more evidance that Kerry is a war criminal and not fit to serve in Abu-Gharib, let alone the presidancy of the United States. Don't you see what is going on here? This information you admit to be dubious, but you still base your opinion on it. You are personally demonstrating just how slime and misinformation campaigns turn willfully ignorant people into political tools. There is a famous term credited to Lenin for people who form opinions like this, it's rather insulting so I won't use it.But you forget that I come from a country where there is real freedom like there should be. No freedom to own guns, but freedom to drink a beer when you are 17 years old for example. Another nice feature is that unlike other countries we have quite a good independent media. And the relative amount of propaganda is a lot lower. We also don't vote for somebody just becasue he is the president at the moment.
If we consider the attack on Iraq no lie of the media, that is enough for my opinions. In the US 52 % of the people still believe Saddam was behind the 9/11 attacks. etc. I can go on but please don't accuse me of making my opinion up just like that. I'm sure that if the US had the same kind of media as in Holland, it would be a lot more a land of the free.
Anyway, why I'm always involved in these discussions. Like someone ce on this forum "the people get who they deserve", okay let's make a very bald statement and say the people of the deserve GWBush (sorry for the 50 % that voted for Gore) You would say, let them go, it is their own problem. But that is of course not true. If half of americans have their opinions based on FOX news, that hurts the rest of the world, and that's why I hope GWBush does not get another term.