Gay Marriage
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Quote:Its encouraging a moderatly inane mental pathology

Nice title. This one disagrees.

Quote:NOTE: Please dont bother telling me how whatever psyciatric organization has delared it not a mental defect - they voted on that. Anything you vote on is an opinion and not backed up by fact.

The issue is not whether it was voted on or whether it was an opinion, but the criteria by which they classify a "mental illness." So, rather than attacking it as an "opinion," you should argue that you, learned Ghostiger, have better criteria for classifying mental illness. For those not read on this subject, here's what happened:

Quote:apa.org
Is Homosexuality a Mental Illness or Emotional Problem?

No. Psychologists, psychiatrists and other mental health professionals agree that homosexuality is not an illness, mental disorder or an emotional problem. Over 35 years of objective, well-designed scientific research has shown that homosexuality, in and itself,is not associated with mental disorders or emotional or social problems. Homosexuality was once thought to be a mental illness because mental health professionals and society had biased information. In the past the studies of gay, lesbian and bisexual people involved only those in therapy, thus biasing the resulting conclusions. When researchers examined data about these people who were not in therapy, the idea that homosexuality was a mental illness was quickly found to be untrue.

In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association confirmed the importance of the new, better designed research and removed homosexuality from the official manual that lists mental and emotional disorders. Two years later, the American Psychological Association passed a resolution supporting the removal. For more than 25 years, both associations have urged all mental health professionals to help dispel the stigma of mental illness that some people still associate with homosexual orientation.

According to Wikipedia, a mental illness is a psychiatric disorder that results in a disruption in a person's thinking, feeling, moods, and ability to relate to others. So, Ghostiger, if you believe homosexuality meets that criteria, I'd like you to illustrate how. (If you need help with this, some people may agree with you.)

Quote:But making special social provisions for this isnt logical, especially seince it is likely that not all homosexuallity has such an origen.

So, was it "making special provisions" to allow people of different races to marry?

Ha ha, very funny, right? You never heard that one before in a gay marriage argument. Well, piss on you for using loaded language ("making special provisions"). Same-sex marriage proponents want the marriage agreement to ignore the gender of the participants. That's not a special provision for gay people. That's changing the law to permit same-sex marriage.

-Lemmy
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Gay Marriage - by Guest - 08-14-2004, 10:04 PM
Gay Marriage - by Archon_Wing - 08-14-2004, 10:10 PM
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Gay Marriage - by LemmingofGlory - 08-31-2004, 06:09 PM
Gay Marriage - by Minionman - 09-01-2004, 01:14 AM
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