07-29-2004, 04:05 PM
I personally am not that worried about the learning/unlearning of talents. If you can't "unlearn" talents, you might have hundreds of essentially the same character in various stages of development running around. That, IMO, would be the perfect way to make a game boring.
However, after a while, things might progress they way they did when the original Diablo was still the King of All Games. And that was people trying to take a game that everyone had played to a certain degree playable and interesting again. You had TONs of variants within just 3 classes. Do you remember:
The Tank Mage (High AC, ~ lvl 15 spells)
The Artillery Mage (Lower AC ~ lvl 20 spells)
The Bowazon (Rogue)
The Warrior Rogue (High AC, Sword/Shield combo)
The SNOBs (Unique Item Only Characters)
The Naked Mages (no items at all)
The Ninja (Only Light-radius reducing items)
The Beyond Naked (only cursed items)
The Paladin (only light-radius increasing items)
And there were more that existed!
No matter what, the game will eventually enforce diversity, solely on the basis that not everyone wants to be the same as everyone else. Heck, playing styles vary just as much as there are people playing the game. Though some of the basic concepts are the same, but ultimately, there is never going to be two players that are exactly alike.
In Diablo II, I had a Druid that Bolty and I planned out. I wanted to have Hurricane act as a shield for me, and it did it. To those of you that remember our Baal runs, but there wasn't very many that could stand up to us. It got to be disgustingly easy. But I had to play a way that just simply wasn't me. I liked going toe to toe with anything that came my way. But I had to stand back, and take a more "artillery" role. But even still D2 got to the point where there were variants withing each class.
It's like there's just a natural progression of a Blizzard game of this type.
Right now in WoW, my playing style is more of a borderline support role if I'm in a group with a Warrior, but I'm the tank when I'm with a casting class.
I don't think that the talent system should be unlearnable. You made your choice, adapt how you play. If you can't, party with someone that can work around your playing style. And if nobody will party with you, either you need to change the way that you play, or go solo. But either way you choose, you'll know better next time.
SaxyCorp
However, after a while, things might progress they way they did when the original Diablo was still the King of All Games. And that was people trying to take a game that everyone had played to a certain degree playable and interesting again. You had TONs of variants within just 3 classes. Do you remember:
The Tank Mage (High AC, ~ lvl 15 spells)
The Artillery Mage (Lower AC ~ lvl 20 spells)
The Bowazon (Rogue)
The Warrior Rogue (High AC, Sword/Shield combo)
The SNOBs (Unique Item Only Characters)
The Naked Mages (no items at all)
The Ninja (Only Light-radius reducing items)
The Beyond Naked (only cursed items)
The Paladin (only light-radius increasing items)
And there were more that existed!
No matter what, the game will eventually enforce diversity, solely on the basis that not everyone wants to be the same as everyone else. Heck, playing styles vary just as much as there are people playing the game. Though some of the basic concepts are the same, but ultimately, there is never going to be two players that are exactly alike.
In Diablo II, I had a Druid that Bolty and I planned out. I wanted to have Hurricane act as a shield for me, and it did it. To those of you that remember our Baal runs, but there wasn't very many that could stand up to us. It got to be disgustingly easy. But I had to play a way that just simply wasn't me. I liked going toe to toe with anything that came my way. But I had to stand back, and take a more "artillery" role. But even still D2 got to the point where there were variants withing each class.
It's like there's just a natural progression of a Blizzard game of this type.
Right now in WoW, my playing style is more of a borderline support role if I'm in a group with a Warrior, but I'm the tank when I'm with a casting class.
I don't think that the talent system should be unlearnable. You made your choice, adapt how you play. If you can't, party with someone that can work around your playing style. And if nobody will party with you, either you need to change the way that you play, or go solo. But either way you choose, you'll know better next time.
SaxyCorp