03-25-2003, 10:00 PM
In response to Albion Child and Luminaire's profession of faith.
Faith is not something that should be thrown onto a message board. It is a deeply personal thing that cannot be explained or debated. It can only be demonstrated.
It scares me when someone tries to say things about God, religion vs. relationship, etc. They are just walking into a fight that cannot be won. How do you explain the unexplainable? Allow me to exemplify how easy it is to logically squash arguments based out of faith.
Luminaire said
Really?? I thought God was omnipotent, this presupposes that he is capable of creating a being that has both the free will to love him and is incapable of displeasing him. If this is not the case, then there is a universal law, called free will or choice, that is above God and even he cannot violate.
Another, if God created everything then he also created evil. Something that by his own admission is abhorrent to him.
I'll stop now, but I have a hundred more apparent paradoxes.
Please walk your faith and refrain from talking it.
Mark
Oh, and by the way I believe the founding fathers of America would prefer to be characterized as Deists as opposed to Christians. I'll leave that to someone else to argue.
Faith is not something that should be thrown onto a message board. It is a deeply personal thing that cannot be explained or debated. It can only be demonstrated.
It scares me when someone tries to say things about God, religion vs. relationship, etc. They are just walking into a fight that cannot be won. How do you explain the unexplainable? Allow me to exemplify how easy it is to logically squash arguments based out of faith.
Luminaire said
Quote: Posted on Mar 20 2003, 07:03 AM
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Its as simple as this: God created man out of a need for relationship. But Man had to have a free will, and a want for that relationship. Afterall, praise from a slave who has no choice is hardly from the heart.
Really?? I thought God was omnipotent, this presupposes that he is capable of creating a being that has both the free will to love him and is incapable of displeasing him. If this is not the case, then there is a universal law, called free will or choice, that is above God and even he cannot violate.
Another, if God created everything then he also created evil. Something that by his own admission is abhorrent to him.
I'll stop now, but I have a hundred more apparent paradoxes.
Please walk your faith and refrain from talking it.
Mark
Oh, and by the way I believe the founding fathers of America would prefer to be characterized as Deists as opposed to Christians. I'll leave that to someone else to argue.
More fun then twins on a sugar high!!