05-24-2004, 01:17 AM
The problem is that monsters have much more life than players and much less damage.
Let's look at some monsters:
Zombie in act 1 hell blood moor:
mlvl 67
45-106 and 53-114 damage
4,317-6,168 life (3,238-4,626 if not on the ladder)
So, with the stronger attack, it'll deal an average of 83 damage each hit and will thus take an average of 843 damage to itself each time. With an average of 5242 life, it'll take an average of 7 hits for it to kill itself. By that time, you'll also have taken 584 damage yourself.
Except that it's 50% resistant to physical damage. So it'll really take 13 hits and deal 1085 damage to you.
Death lord in act 5 hell throne of destruction:
mlvl 85
76-115 and 76-115 damage
14,836-18,546 life (11,128-13,911 if not on the ladder)
It deals an average of 95 damage per hit, thus taking an average of 964 per hit to itself. There's an average of 16691 life, so it'll take an average of 18 hits to kill itself, dealing 1710 damage in the process.
Except that it's 66% resistant to physical damage. So it'll really take 51 hits to kill itself, dealing 4870 damage in the process.
(These numbers are rounded, and I am just talking about averages. Individual monsters could take many more or many less hits to kill themselves).
Of course, you wouldn't just be fighting individual monsters. More monsters means more damage.
So you'd really be killing things very slowly with just the thorns. And you'd be taking a lot of damage. The damage is based on how much you take, so if you get hit less or if you reduce the damage, you'll also be reducing the effectiveness of the thorns. And this wasn't even looking at things like ranged attacks or elemental damage, against which thorns is useless.
Let's look at some monsters:
Zombie in act 1 hell blood moor:
mlvl 67
45-106 and 53-114 damage
4,317-6,168 life (3,238-4,626 if not on the ladder)
So, with the stronger attack, it'll deal an average of 83 damage each hit and will thus take an average of 843 damage to itself each time. With an average of 5242 life, it'll take an average of 7 hits for it to kill itself. By that time, you'll also have taken 584 damage yourself.
Except that it's 50% resistant to physical damage. So it'll really take 13 hits and deal 1085 damage to you.
Death lord in act 5 hell throne of destruction:
mlvl 85
76-115 and 76-115 damage
14,836-18,546 life (11,128-13,911 if not on the ladder)
It deals an average of 95 damage per hit, thus taking an average of 964 per hit to itself. There's an average of 16691 life, so it'll take an average of 18 hits to kill itself, dealing 1710 damage in the process.
Except that it's 66% resistant to physical damage. So it'll really take 51 hits to kill itself, dealing 4870 damage in the process.
(These numbers are rounded, and I am just talking about averages. Individual monsters could take many more or many less hits to kill themselves).
Of course, you wouldn't just be fighting individual monsters. More monsters means more damage.
So you'd really be killing things very slowly with just the thorns. And you'd be taking a lot of damage. The damage is based on how much you take, so if you get hit less or if you reduce the damage, you'll also be reducing the effectiveness of the thorns. And this wasn't even looking at things like ranged attacks or elemental damage, against which thorns is useless.