04-22-2004, 08:00 PM
Ahoy hoy,
Long time Lurker here, just reregistered cause I am totally excited about Lurkers playing this game. Anyways I used to post here in my D2 days, my login was BadMath. Some of you may remember me, I recognize most of the names here.
About the Bit Torrent issue. The "more you put in, the more you get out" is great in theory but the problem is your download speed is entirely dependant on others upload capacity, and home connections are simply not geared for that.
I work for a computer consulting/web hosting/software development company in Buffalo, NY. This business is located in a converted house in the city of Buffalo. I rent the guest house portion of the house from my boss. I get free internet access because of this. I basically sit on a T1 by myself after 5PM. When I get on Bit Torrent I can easily eat up a full megabit on upload, while my download, which is equally fat, stays pretty much at what you guys get. Why? Because even though I am throwing out at least ten times as much as I download, no one can supply me enough upload off thier home cable or DSL connections. Simple as that.
Bit Torrent works great when the file is first seeded and downloaded by the masses because even though you are getting meager downloads from others, there is so many other people uploading to you it creates the illusion of having good download speed. If you are late to the game and try and get the huge files a couple days later you're going to suffer because there is only a few other downloading the same file simuletaneously and therefore less people to upload to you.
That's the biggest flaw in Bit Torrent, it's great when the file is released, and is terrible in the days that follow it unless you luck out and someone like me is uploading to you. But companies love it because it's cutting down on thier bandwidth costs by a lot. So don't expect a change in policy.
Also when you see your download speed just spike up it's probably someone with a fat connection like me uploading to you. (Yes, I am bragging)
About the capping upload to get more download. That will work with things like ADSL where some of the upload and download channels overlap. On an SDSL connection you should have full duplex ability, meaing download should not affect your upload and vice versa. But again, it's important to note, that freeing up bandwidth for download is not going to magically make others be able to send faster.
For those with cable try a program called DocsDiag. It will tell you what your cable modem is really capped at. Forget those websites, they are always wrong. I can garuntee you that Rogers, or Cox, or Time Warner, or Adeplphia or whoever is not giving you a fractional T1 or a full T1 for 50 bucks a month. Don't trust what Windows tells you you're downloading at either. A full T1 is 192 kilobytes a second. If you're cable is capped at 300k, thats 300,000 BITS, not BYTES. Converted to kilobytes you're cable is really good for 36 kilobytes a second. Why Windows will gladly report you are downloading at 200KB a second, I have no freaking clue.
Whew, wordy. My bad.
Long time Lurker here, just reregistered cause I am totally excited about Lurkers playing this game. Anyways I used to post here in my D2 days, my login was BadMath. Some of you may remember me, I recognize most of the names here.
About the Bit Torrent issue. The "more you put in, the more you get out" is great in theory but the problem is your download speed is entirely dependant on others upload capacity, and home connections are simply not geared for that.
I work for a computer consulting/web hosting/software development company in Buffalo, NY. This business is located in a converted house in the city of Buffalo. I rent the guest house portion of the house from my boss. I get free internet access because of this. I basically sit on a T1 by myself after 5PM. When I get on Bit Torrent I can easily eat up a full megabit on upload, while my download, which is equally fat, stays pretty much at what you guys get. Why? Because even though I am throwing out at least ten times as much as I download, no one can supply me enough upload off thier home cable or DSL connections. Simple as that.
Bit Torrent works great when the file is first seeded and downloaded by the masses because even though you are getting meager downloads from others, there is so many other people uploading to you it creates the illusion of having good download speed. If you are late to the game and try and get the huge files a couple days later you're going to suffer because there is only a few other downloading the same file simuletaneously and therefore less people to upload to you.
That's the biggest flaw in Bit Torrent, it's great when the file is released, and is terrible in the days that follow it unless you luck out and someone like me is uploading to you. But companies love it because it's cutting down on thier bandwidth costs by a lot. So don't expect a change in policy.
Also when you see your download speed just spike up it's probably someone with a fat connection like me uploading to you. (Yes, I am bragging)
About the capping upload to get more download. That will work with things like ADSL where some of the upload and download channels overlap. On an SDSL connection you should have full duplex ability, meaing download should not affect your upload and vice versa. But again, it's important to note, that freeing up bandwidth for download is not going to magically make others be able to send faster.
For those with cable try a program called DocsDiag. It will tell you what your cable modem is really capped at. Forget those websites, they are always wrong. I can garuntee you that Rogers, or Cox, or Time Warner, or Adeplphia or whoever is not giving you a fractional T1 or a full T1 for 50 bucks a month. Don't trust what Windows tells you you're downloading at either. A full T1 is 192 kilobytes a second. If you're cable is capped at 300k, thats 300,000 BITS, not BYTES. Converted to kilobytes you're cable is really good for 36 kilobytes a second. Why Windows will gladly report you are downloading at 200KB a second, I have no freaking clue.
Whew, wordy. My bad.