Curious observation
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Hi,

There are, counting leap day, 365.25 days a year. So, the probability that a person's birthday falls on any given day is 1 in 365.25 (1/365.25). The probability that a person's birthday doesn't fall on a given day is thus 1 - 1/365.25 = 364.25/365.25 as I said in the previous post.

Now, consider two people. If they are not twins, the probability of both not having their birthday on a given day is simply
(the probability of the first not having a birthday on that day) times
(the probability of the second not having a birthday on that day).

I looked for a good explanation of this, but all I found where either too technical (if you can read the notation, you probably already know the results) or too superficial. The best I could find was here.

Add a third person. The probability that all three don't have a birthday on a given day is
(the probability of the third not having a birthday on that day) times
(the probability that the first two don't have a birthday on that day) (which we've already worked out.)

Now, this gives us (364.25/365)^1, (364.25/365)^2, (364.25/365)^3 for one, two, and three persons respectively. We can continue to the case of n people by induction. It's a simple argument. We've shown the case for 1 already. Assume that it is true for (n-1), then for n it is
(the probability of the nth person not having a birthday on that day) times
(the probability that the first (n-1) people don't have a birthday on that day)

So, we get (364.25/365)^(n-1) * (364.25/365)^1 = (364.25/365)^n as required.

The odds are easy to calculate given the number of people. It's the number of people that would be, I think, difficult to calculate.

--Pete

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Curious observation - by --Pete - 03-25-2004, 06:42 PM
Curious observation - by DeeBye - 03-25-2004, 06:51 PM
Curious observation - by Chaerophon - 03-25-2004, 06:53 PM
Curious observation - by pakman - 03-25-2004, 07:07 PM
Curious observation - by --Pete - 03-25-2004, 07:27 PM
Curious observation - by TriggerHappy - 03-25-2004, 07:33 PM
Curious observation - by Griselda - 03-25-2004, 08:34 PM
Curious observation - by --Pete - 03-25-2004, 08:51 PM
Curious observation - by Lady Vashj - 03-25-2004, 09:59 PM
Curious observation - by Cryptic - 03-25-2004, 10:13 PM
Curious observation - by LochnarITB - 03-25-2004, 11:28 PM
Curious observation - by degrak - 03-26-2004, 05:35 AM
Curious observation - by AtomicKitKat - 03-26-2004, 08:27 AM
Curious observation - by TriggerHappy - 03-26-2004, 01:13 PM
Curious observation - by NiteFox - 03-26-2004, 01:25 PM
Curious observation - by --Pete - 03-26-2004, 03:11 PM
Curious observation - by AtomicKitKat - 03-26-2004, 07:28 PM
Curious observation - by --Pete - 03-26-2004, 08:44 PM
Curious observation - by WarLocke - 03-26-2004, 10:02 PM
Curious observation - by Cryptic - 03-26-2004, 10:15 PM
Curious observation - by --Pete - 03-26-2004, 10:17 PM
Curious observation - by whyBish - 03-26-2004, 11:50 PM
Curious observation - by --Pete - 03-27-2004, 01:46 AM
Curious observation - by Obi2Kenobi - 03-28-2004, 09:30 PM
Curious observation - by Griselda - 03-28-2004, 09:57 PM
Curious observation - by Obi2Kenobi - 03-29-2004, 02:07 AM
Curious observation - by Lady Vashj - 03-29-2004, 05:56 PM
Curious observation - by AtomicKitKat - 03-29-2004, 08:51 PM
Curious observation - by Obi2Kenobi - 03-30-2004, 12:09 AM
Curious observation - by Lady Vashj - 03-30-2004, 01:25 PM
Curious observation - by Obi2Kenobi - 03-30-2004, 11:25 PM
Curious observation - by AtomicKitKat - 03-31-2004, 08:06 AM
Curious observation - by Lady Vashj - 03-31-2004, 01:03 PM
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