Wow Kerry took the Florida primary!

[kandrathe]

Anyway my point is, it is good that also in the US a lot of people oppose to this kind of propaganda and don't "continue to regurgitate " it. If you check history this propaganda (ussually in war time) they are filled with lies. During the vietnam war a group of people allready opposed to this, now everybody sees it was wrong.

Well, Vietnam is a big topic. If you compare the lives of the people of Vietnam vs the people of South Korea (where we did not pull out) some (like my Hmong friends) might say we were wrong to leave them to that fate. We have stuck it out in South Korea for half a century at a tremendous cost. Was the Korean war wrong? Was the Vietnam war wrong? I guess at some point, when the Soviets and Chinese made them unwinable. Was it right to make a stand against Communism? Maybe. It might be that because of our ten year stand in Vietnam that Thailand is still free.

Propaganda: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person. What I try to spread is the truth as I see it, both the good and the bad. What I believe in is the free expression of ideas, and debate of these topics. I could just as well accuse some of spreading Kerry "propaganda" meant to diminish any accomplishments of the USA. Well, heck, they don't even acknowledge any accomplishments, and only focus on the negative.

I object to and I'm a little tired of defacto America bashing -- where everything that we do or try to do is considered wrong. Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton and Bush Jr. all did some good and some bad things (and some very bad things). Maybe I'm anachronistic, but I find slurs like "Shrub" a tad offensive -- kind of like someone just wiped their feet on our flag. I will defend a persons freedom to do it, but at the same time I find it crude.

As last example I want to mention the "trick" of Bush' friend Aznar.

I too think it would have been better to let the evidence speak for itself.