03-12-2004, 04:25 AM
"If you believe in moon landing fake conspiracy theories, and baby killing US soldiers, then trying to reason is beyond hope."
While you did qualify it with an "if", it does kind of imply that Eppie said all of it. He only said half of it. The other half was not US soldiers killing babies, but rather a hoax, perpetrated by toadying Kuwaitis, about Iraqi soldiers killing babies. Since that has been verified to be nothing but propaganda, I would hope that it's cleared of the conspiracy charge. Indeed, even with the "moon landing" conspiracy charge, he didn't say it never happened, just that they had a backup plan in case it didn't. The truth of that, I don't know, and I don't think you do either.
Eppie also did not say anything about eleventh-hour changes Clinton made. Where did you pull that from? Also, the argument "Oh, yeah? Well, where were the Democrats?" doesn't really apply to people who don't live in the States.
Nor was he reciting the "tax cuts for the wealthy" criticism, valid as it may be. He was pointing out an obvious truth that the US government will find very oppressive soon: there are only so many taxes you can cut before your government goes broke, and only so many years your creditors will look the other way as you sink further into debt to finance your artificially low taxes. Even small governments need money.
His actual points were quite a bit stronger than the ones you contested. That's usually called a strawman.
Jester
While you did qualify it with an "if", it does kind of imply that Eppie said all of it. He only said half of it. The other half was not US soldiers killing babies, but rather a hoax, perpetrated by toadying Kuwaitis, about Iraqi soldiers killing babies. Since that has been verified to be nothing but propaganda, I would hope that it's cleared of the conspiracy charge. Indeed, even with the "moon landing" conspiracy charge, he didn't say it never happened, just that they had a backup plan in case it didn't. The truth of that, I don't know, and I don't think you do either.
Eppie also did not say anything about eleventh-hour changes Clinton made. Where did you pull that from? Also, the argument "Oh, yeah? Well, where were the Democrats?" doesn't really apply to people who don't live in the States.
Nor was he reciting the "tax cuts for the wealthy" criticism, valid as it may be. He was pointing out an obvious truth that the US government will find very oppressive soon: there are only so many taxes you can cut before your government goes broke, and only so many years your creditors will look the other way as you sink further into debt to finance your artificially low taxes. Even small governments need money.
His actual points were quite a bit stronger than the ones you contested. That's usually called a strawman.
Jester