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Maybe "coming out" offends the hell out of some people. Maybe they don't want to know what other people do, sexually, in their bedrooms. You don't share your sexual habits with us here, nor do most, so thank you all for your discretion. There is at least a level of good taste generally held to here.

Maybe the "out someone else" movement of a few years back was extremely intrusive. It sure stepped on the discretion some gay folks chose to exercise, for their own reasons.

I suspected that any number of losers wanted to out successful people so that they could bask in reflected glory, but I could be wrong about that. With so many thousands involved, the motivations were doubtless personal and varied.

Me, I am long past raising an eyebrow over who is in and who is out. Stay in the closet, come out, what ever rows your boat.

As for Ashkael: When you choose to discuss where you are at with your parents, be prepared to be surprised, to run into emotional angst, to even run into unexpected lumps in your life.

It ain't all about you.

It is about your relationship with your mom and dad both of whom are real people. That's important stuff, and not to be taken lightly. When and if you ever raise children in the future, you will understand better their PoV. You will also understand the word "sacrifice."

Only you will know when the time and setting is right. Best of luck to you when that day comes. I hope you are pleasantly surprised.
Cry 'Havoc' and let slip the Men 'O War!
In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete
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