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Marriage... as defined by the Constitution; a document which (correct me if I'm wrong) has never dealt with the subject before. Neither has the term "family", if it is even possible to actually define that term.

Rhetoric is flying back and forth. The timing of Bush's announcement couldn't have been more suspect, with his election race just kicking into gear hours beforehand. Is this an election issue? Is this a Red Herring tactic to pull attention away from the issues that WOULD HAVE dominated any debates (Domestic policy, job loss, ballooning budget, Iraq, Haiti, etc-etc)? Is this something that SHOULD be an election issue? Neither side seems to have a definitive reaction or stance. Individuals, yes... but not groups; this reinforces the supposed polarity that is being felt in the USA right now, I suppose. Conservative Democrats applaud, Republican liberals aghast... whee.

...and, of course, CNN is right on the button, bringing in their think-tank "experts" with their pre-bottled arguments. Larry King's show last night was... well, aggravating. Mayor Gavin of SanFran looks slick-as-snot in his new suit and haircut (was that the Kennedy's copy of "The Prince" tucked in his jacket?). I haven't seen such an obvious demonstration of a young politician charging the White House in my entire life. Is his "cause" just? Debateable... but his ambition was palpable. He, however, was a joy to watch compared to that witch that the Republicans sent in. It's called a debate, lady... that means you actually have to shut up and let the other side talk occaisionally.

... And before Occhi has an aneurysm, I'm not an American; but you have to admit that this is (for God knows what reason) become an international story with international attention... and that, for better or worse, garners international opinion. Like it or not, America is the big fish in the pond, and when the big fish does something out-of-the-ordinary... EVERYONE pays attention, because it'll probably lead to changes that DO affect them. That being the case, I'd like to hear some reasonable opinions on whether this is something that needs to be addressed by the Constitution, or (as some see it) a State-by-State level issue, and should be left as such.

So what are we seeing here? Political machinations on a subject that has no business being dealt with at such lofty levels? A Social Revolution such as hasn't been seen since MLK? A Red Herring the size of Moby Dick?

... it's rather like watching a reality TV show with prepackaged dilemmas and scripted conflicts... I assume, because I can't stand watching that crap, either.

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