02-09-2004, 04:19 AM
Glad you asked :D :
>>I had a 86 Zealot/Martyr combo (zeal + Fanatisicm and Sacrifice and all synergies) that died numerous times and was rebuilt in hardcore due mostly to:
1.) fire explosion in nightmare and hell, even with 95% fire resist
2.) iron maiden anywhere in act 5 nightmare and hell
3.) dolls while zealing
4.) hitting non-leechable monsters while using sacrifice
He did exceptionally well in hell and dealt around 2.5k average damage with a socketed Atlantian and I was still using Deaths sash and gloves (can't beat all those bonuses!). I can't recall if that was with or without his Might mercinary's aura.
>>I had a Frost Crusader (Freezadin) up to 74 and died to fire explosion (first time I found out about it actually with this guy. I never rebuilt him, but he did exceptionally well in hell, even thou his damage was a little lower than my zealot. All monsters would be slowed to a crawl and if I also gave him clegaws and socketed my weapon with a saphire, the monsters would be virtual statues.
>>I had an Avenger (vengeance + Convictoin) up to level 84. I stripped him of gear and gave him only points into vitality at around level 32 because I thought this subclass sucked, then I used his aura to help my friends MF and kill bosses. For giggles, I gave him Deaths full set and a few other items and low and behold, he was killing monster >>IN HELL<< in one hit!!! He died shortly after making this discovery... So while I am anxious to rebuild this varient, I was a little leery of his very slow attack speed. Nonetheless, a very strong build at high level (if you can survive to high level).
>>My friend whom I call ELMO, is currently #1 on the hardcore paladin ladder with his Fist of the Heavens paladin. I honestly thought this build was doomed in 1.1, but he says it's alive and well and does an incredable about of damage. I still have no urge to attempt it.
>>As you said, there is the Hammerdin.
>>There is also the Charger as mentioned before my post.
>>The Smiter is NOT a viable build for Hell in 1.1
>>I have NOT tried or heard of anyone trying a Ranger/Shockadin; Firedin; Missionary (throns + conversion); "forgot the name of this one" (Defiance + Holy shield + attack); and the Cleric (which I like to call the undead slayer). Also, there are the non-killing/party-helper builds such as the Medic.
So to answer your question, YES!
>>I had a 86 Zealot/Martyr combo (zeal + Fanatisicm and Sacrifice and all synergies) that died numerous times and was rebuilt in hardcore due mostly to:
1.) fire explosion in nightmare and hell, even with 95% fire resist
2.) iron maiden anywhere in act 5 nightmare and hell
3.) dolls while zealing
4.) hitting non-leechable monsters while using sacrifice
He did exceptionally well in hell and dealt around 2.5k average damage with a socketed Atlantian and I was still using Deaths sash and gloves (can't beat all those bonuses!). I can't recall if that was with or without his Might mercinary's aura.
>>I had a Frost Crusader (Freezadin) up to 74 and died to fire explosion (first time I found out about it actually with this guy. I never rebuilt him, but he did exceptionally well in hell, even thou his damage was a little lower than my zealot. All monsters would be slowed to a crawl and if I also gave him clegaws and socketed my weapon with a saphire, the monsters would be virtual statues.
>>I had an Avenger (vengeance + Convictoin) up to level 84. I stripped him of gear and gave him only points into vitality at around level 32 because I thought this subclass sucked, then I used his aura to help my friends MF and kill bosses. For giggles, I gave him Deaths full set and a few other items and low and behold, he was killing monster >>IN HELL<< in one hit!!! He died shortly after making this discovery... So while I am anxious to rebuild this varient, I was a little leery of his very slow attack speed. Nonetheless, a very strong build at high level (if you can survive to high level).
>>My friend whom I call ELMO, is currently #1 on the hardcore paladin ladder with his Fist of the Heavens paladin. I honestly thought this build was doomed in 1.1, but he says it's alive and well and does an incredable about of damage. I still have no urge to attempt it.
>>As you said, there is the Hammerdin.
>>There is also the Charger as mentioned before my post.
>>The Smiter is NOT a viable build for Hell in 1.1
>>I have NOT tried or heard of anyone trying a Ranger/Shockadin; Firedin; Missionary (throns + conversion); "forgot the name of this one" (Defiance + Holy shield + attack); and the Cleric (which I like to call the undead slayer). Also, there are the non-killing/party-helper builds such as the Medic.
So to answer your question, YES!
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