01-23-2004, 06:27 AM
Mithrandir,Jan 22 2004, 07:33 PM Wrote:Please. I guess it was okay then for African Americans to be denied access to restaurants, bathrooms, theaters, and buses (or at the very least forced to endure lower quality service) prior to America's cultural revolution, eh? After all, they're not "paying" for anything! They're just being denied access! No biggie!Yeah, teaches me for sticking my foot in with too little time. You got me on that first paragraph :)
Males aren't permitted in female bathrooms because different facilities are required for each.
As to the pension... Young people aren't given pensions because they didn't put it the work, loyalty, and time needed to receive one. AA, on the other hand, hands free gifts over to individuals who have done nothing to deserve it. A rather significant difference, no?
On the second point, I don't see any difference in facilities between the two. Should I camp out in the toilets of the opposite gender complaining of discrimination and wait for things to change? Both 'sides' need those facilities, in your case on campus there are plenty of places to study and you are complaining about one facility that is by AA dedicated to a group that you do not belong?
You seem to be saying that you agree with affirmative action as long as everyone is treated as equal? This essentially rules out AA completely. As Jester(?) said, what actions would you allow under AA?
Finally, as to the pension, it is not given to those that put in what you suggested . It is given to everyone that reaches a specific age, some of who have done nothing to deserve it, so I see no difference.