12-20-2003, 08:34 AM
Actually Pallando and Alatar where corrupted not by power, but by other things. I believe Pallando was corrupted by knowledge and Alatar was corrupted by the hunt (but even these inlater writings where never fleshed out one way or the next, as these were all through speculation).
BTW, it nice to see I am not the only one who has the ICE MECCG books that are almost essential tomes of knowledge when dealing with the lore and characters of Tolkein's writings. I was not very impressed with the last movie too much, but then again when it comes to movies being based off books, i admit to being a purist to a certain extent. I could go on about a few things, but of the 7 points of "canon" that the book has, he hits 1, and that being the paths of the dead(and even that was half-arsed). The other 5 parts minus the shire ending are: 1)the watchers at Cirith Ungol (no mention at all in the movie) with the invisible barrier and the temptation of Samwise, 2) when Samwise and Frodo are caught because they overslept on the plains of Gorgoroth, but luck would have it they are mistaken as orcs and are forced back into the march, 3) the suidcide of Denethor (which was handled very poorly in the movie) and the madness caused by the palantir that was located in Minis Tirith "dos thou think that the eyes are the white tower are BLIND!?!?!" 4) The red tipped Arrow that was presented to Rohan from Gondor representing the final sign of despair there and the fact they needed help ASAP and 5) the whole "GROND" scene and arrival of the hosts of Rohan to the battle (what happened to " And in that very moment, away behind in some courtyard of the city a cock crowed. Shrill and clear, recking nothing of wizardry or war , welcoming only the morning that in the sky far above the shadows of death was coming with the dawn. And as if in answer there came from far away another note. Horns, horn horns............ ). There are a slew of small details that were totally disreguarded by Jackson and crew for the sake of Hollywood creative liscence. I hate to say it......but the Rankin/Bass cartoon from '79 is a whole lot better as far as following the high points of this book (then again they too left out the shire ending, but their excuse is a whole lot more palatable than "I didn't like the ending so there, nyar") and kept alot of the music and poetry that was Tolkein's. Those who haven't seen it, should check it out.......sure it isn't all glitzy hollywood, but it keeps truer to what was written.
BTW, it nice to see I am not the only one who has the ICE MECCG books that are almost essential tomes of knowledge when dealing with the lore and characters of Tolkein's writings. I was not very impressed with the last movie too much, but then again when it comes to movies being based off books, i admit to being a purist to a certain extent. I could go on about a few things, but of the 7 points of "canon" that the book has, he hits 1, and that being the paths of the dead(and even that was half-arsed). The other 5 parts minus the shire ending are: 1)the watchers at Cirith Ungol (no mention at all in the movie) with the invisible barrier and the temptation of Samwise, 2) when Samwise and Frodo are caught because they overslept on the plains of Gorgoroth, but luck would have it they are mistaken as orcs and are forced back into the march, 3) the suidcide of Denethor (which was handled very poorly in the movie) and the madness caused by the palantir that was located in Minis Tirith "dos thou think that the eyes are the white tower are BLIND!?!?!" 4) The red tipped Arrow that was presented to Rohan from Gondor representing the final sign of despair there and the fact they needed help ASAP and 5) the whole "GROND" scene and arrival of the hosts of Rohan to the battle (what happened to " And in that very moment, away behind in some courtyard of the city a cock crowed. Shrill and clear, recking nothing of wizardry or war , welcoming only the morning that in the sky far above the shadows of death was coming with the dawn. And as if in answer there came from far away another note. Horns, horn horns............ ). There are a slew of small details that were totally disreguarded by Jackson and crew for the sake of Hollywood creative liscence. I hate to say it......but the Rankin/Bass cartoon from '79 is a whole lot better as far as following the high points of this book (then again they too left out the shire ending, but their excuse is a whole lot more palatable than "I didn't like the ending so there, nyar") and kept alot of the music and poetry that was Tolkein's. Those who haven't seen it, should check it out.......sure it isn't all glitzy hollywood, but it keeps truer to what was written.