Two wars at once?

[Occhidiangela]

"Hmm, are you digging yourself the proverbial grave here? Palestinians are a civilian people trying to live under circumstances under which most of us would rebel. Palestinians are not fighting IDF troops or blowing themselves up. A handful of extremists are."

Nice repetition of a fantasy. In a guerilla war, in a non-conventinal war, there are not civilians. But you of course forget what we learned in Viet Nam. If the civilians wanted peace, they would not harbor the "few militants." Please read Chariman Mao on how to conduct an insurgency, and swim within the pond amongst the other fish.

"Here you come from a point of total hypocrisy spoonfed to you by the US media.
Israel is currently in violation of dozens of UN resolutions.
Iraq is in violation of a couple such.
Yet who do you want to go to war against?
You should know better than to bring in the UN card, as that position as maintained by the US in recent times is totally undefensible. At least be honest and say, that UN is relevant only when it's interests and resolutions coincide with your views."

More the fool you, to compare apples and plums. If Israel is a threat to stability writ large, then perhaps other substantive UN action and Security council resolutions will be enforced. We shall see. The 'threat' to the sovreignty of Palestinians is remarkably small peanuts compared to the threat posed by Iraq to many nations in the region. Degree does matter. But you have your blinders on, I doubt you will listen to contrary positions.

"Heeheehee. Three words. West Bank, go!"

Three words. "Go screw yourself."

I lived behind the Iron Curtain as a boy. I don't need to go the the West Bank to know that it sucks to have every street corner policed by armed men, and I don't need to go to the West Bank, again, to know that a neighborhood where people throw rocks at the cops is no place I want to be, even if the cops are pricks.

Funny thing, though, my US passport goes with me whenever I travel for a good reason. I means something. Why would I want to live in the West Bank? Is there some great business opportunity? Is there some great cultural depth? No, I don't go there for the same reason that I don't vacation in Watts. I have better things to do with my time and money.

We have reached the point where we are talking at each other, and not to each other, which is contrarty to your original intention, which was to engender discussion on a different topic, which was: a two front war, can the US do it? On this other matter, I have heard enough of your position, and you have doubtless heard enough of mine. I have been all over the world, and I form my opinions based on a variety of inputs. The US media is kind of far down my list as credible sources.

You made a comment that it is hard to convince anyone in an internet debate.

I will add to that very true observation: where you sit determines what you see.

I leave to you that last word. It is your thread. :)