Two wars at once?
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Occhidiangela,Mar 7 2003, 11:11 PM Wrote:Egypt is the sole Arab nation of any note to who has entered into a sustainable peace agreement with Israel, which action brought about the assassination of Anwar Sadat.
Define "nation of any note". Unless you're excluding some pretty important countries in the region, your statement is plain wrong. Maybe you haven't read news for the past 10 years or so? ;)
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Quote:As for conditioning, I have evaluated the positions in the mideast for some time --,

I believe this. And I know that it is very likely that the sources you have used are biased pro-Israeli. Not your fault, just you live in a society which works like that.
For example, Elie Wiesel speaks about as much truth as Goebbels, and is in many ways as bad, if not worse than Arafat.

Quote:'Apartheid?' Nice try.  It is the Palestinians who want their own "sovereign" turf.

For the third time, I recommend you spend your next trip to Israel in the Palestinian West Bank. Better yet, try to blend in as a Palestinian. I bet you won't last 15 minutes in a check point before you go flaunting your US passport.

Quote:when Pres Clinton got him about 90% of what he was asking for

Media myth pushed by, you guessed it, biased US media.
In relation to the first question. If Israel was so generous, what is the logic behind the "death by silence" esponse given to the Saudi peace plan? There is none. It is Israel who refused a solution, that would've led to peace and stability in the region. Now, why would they do it? Maybe they really don't want to solve the problem, or maybe they're paranoid, that I do not know.

Quote:Why you champion their cause puzzles me, unless you are the usual closet anti-semite, or media dupe.

I champion their cause, because they are morally in the right. They are being occupied and oppressed by a foreign invader. Because the UN has done hundreds of resolutions to solve the problem, 99% of which have been vetoed by US or just generally ignored by Israel.
If Palestines were black, and Israelis not jews, what do you think would've happened long time ago? As I've mentioned in a previous post, I'm afraid it is you and yours who have been duped by the media, but it doesn't matter. I can't make you see that, especially not with the limitations of the internet. So best let sleeping dogs lie and realize that we both think the other has been duped, and that neither of us will change our views because of said duping.
Once thing we can agree on though, Arafat is a bastard. I'd like to add that the Israeli leadership has rarely been any better, and certainly not barak, the supposedly peaceful man, who upped the settlement program quite drastically.
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Two wars at once? - by Dani - 03-04-2003, 07:46 AM
Two wars at once? - by Jarulf - 03-04-2003, 09:34 AM
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Two wars at once? - by WarBlade - 03-04-2003, 10:21 AM
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Two wars at once? - by Occhidiangela - 03-04-2003, 03:42 PM
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Two wars at once? - by Mark - 03-07-2003, 12:43 AM
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Two wars at once? - by Brimstone - 03-07-2003, 05:29 AM
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Two wars at once? - by Dani - 03-11-2003, 04:11 PM
Two wars at once? - by NiteFox - 03-11-2003, 04:51 PM
Two wars at once? - by Occhidiangela - 03-11-2003, 05:34 PM
Two wars at once? - by Occhidiangela - 03-11-2003, 05:40 PM
Two wars at once? - by TaMeOlta - 03-11-2003, 07:04 PM
Two wars at once? - by Dani - 03-11-2003, 10:29 PM
Two wars at once? - by Occhidiangela - 03-11-2003, 11:12 PM
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