Be careful of what you wish for

[WarBlade]

HItler became head of a party in a multi party system, and was appointed Chancellor when his party gained enough strength, by President Hindenberg, who in Germany is the 'ceremonial head of sate' whereas the Chancellor is the real head of state.

He was not, unlike our presidents, elected via our system of suffrage.  He was elected using a parliamentary model.  The fact that it has been since modified is irrelveant.

Pfft! Now you're really diving off the track.

I brought up "my system f government" (meaning MMP) as an example of something clearly not influenced by any American model that I'm aware of and you respond with how a multi-party model gave the world Hitler? Considering the various tyrants that frequently rise to power under the two-horse race that is FPP (your system I believe and the one that NZ abandoned in the 90's) I hardly think that Hitler is any yardstick to go by.

After all, any facist wanker with enough clout and the drive to succeed will find a way to rise through the ranks in any political system. Citing such despot to support your position does nothing to add impact to you POV.

I only know that your position is that you cannot see the forest for the trees. I have seen, in my own experience, how our influence has influenced our allies, the so called modern Europeans, who are as hide bound and patriarcical as anyone I have met.

You base your rebuttal on  . . . what?  AN impression?

A knowledge that you are boasting about about supposed American influences concerning things that others have had for comparable lengths of time and in some cases even longer. Just because you go offshore and observe a trend that looks like an exact replica of something you are already familiar with, does not in itself mean that you or your kind founded the idea and their model is a direct copy. It could well mean that yours is the copy or that similar fundamental ideals behind each society has lead them to identical conclusions entirely separately.