09-21-2003, 10:19 PM
naraht,Sep 21 2003, 04:53 PM Wrote:Since this thread has turned into Browser War, I thought I should comment...Actually, no one here started anything near a browser war until you posted that.
Two posts were made in jest, and the rest followed after someone specifically asked about the advantages of leaving IE behind.
Now, if you want a browser "war"?
Quote:I use IE, with the 2.0 Version of Google Toolbar, which is quite possibly one of the best popup blockers out there. Not only does it block them, but it displays that it blocked them, so you know they were there (cause sometimes you WANT the pop-up)
Funny, I prefer something that's 100% seamless to a plugin. Note that your little "displays that it blocked them" has been in Firebird for quite some time (before Google's Toolbar even blocked popups), and I believe Mozilla picked it up later.
Quote:While I do have the occassion stability problem (My browser & the battle.net forums do NOT get along) they are nothing compared to the problems I've had with the Netscape/Mozilla line,
First off, when anyone says "Netscape" they're not talking about Mozilla. Netscape 6+ may use Mozilla code, but that's a pointless observation. Netscape 6.x was using beta Mozilla code, the Mozilla developers specifically said it wasn't ready. Netscape 7.x used stable, Mozilla 1.0, code but took out the best feature and added in a bunch of crap to go with it. Netscape != Mozilla, and most mozilla developers are quite happy to finally be rid of AOL/Netscape.
This is, of course, besides the fact that IE persists on crashing all the time for me, while the only crashbug I've had an issue with in Firebird was an autocomplete bug that was easy to avoid and has since been fixed.
Quote:and I've never liked opera since the time they thought it would be a good idea to have a free version, and a pay version.The heathens! The actually requested that they somehow earn revenue for their job! How dare they!
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Don't call a product "bad" because you're unwilling to pay a developer for their efforts
Quote:I've paid for a browser with Microsoft, and unlike Opera, most web developers SUPPORT IE.Just for clarification: did you actually pay for your OS? Last time I checked IE itself was quite free, anyway. Hell, I can get a crappy version of it for Mac too if I wanted.
As for support, you're flat out wrong. I've had problems with exactly one website since I switched to Firebird. It was a crappy website, by the way. That whole "support" thing is a propaganda-filled pile of crap.
And if web designers that do "support IE" weren't complete idiots, we wouldn't have this problem ever. A webmaster's job is not to support a browser, it's to support standards. You know, those little guidlines Microsoft says IE follows? IE follows these so well that it can actually make a site look horrible because it's doesn't know anything about CSS?
Hell, I barely even mentioned any advantage to Firebird or the other problems IE has, like ActiveX. But now you have your "browser war."
Trade yourself in for the perfect one. No one needs to know that you feel you've been ruined!