What is "Heard Immunity"?
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(05-02-2021, 02:08 AM)Lissa Wrote: First off, models are not confirmed cases.  At present, there have been 33+ Million confirmed cases in the US.  Without confirmation, a model is only so good as without confirmation you cannot tell if your model is good or not.  In this case, the model could have improper settings that could over inflate the numbers.

You make a good point, and media will always sensationalize everything they can get their hands on so, this remains TBD. I will say that if people continue to fail getting tested when they are asymptomatic, I doubt we will ever see accurate numbers.


Quote:Second off, seriously?  Does it really matter that much if someone had an underlying condition that made COVID worse on not for them?  They still died to being infected by COVID so it's 100% COVID that is the cause.  Just because someone has Heart Disease and get pneumonia and they die from pneumonia doesn't mean that they didn't die from pneumonia because they had Heart Disease and were more likely to die because of it.  The cause of death is still pneumonia.  Just like in the COVID deaths being 590k+ deaths, people still died from COVID, just because they had an underlying condition that made them more susceptible DOES NOT MEAN that they didn't die from COVID.

I agree with what you are saying here, but I heard news stories and testimonials of domestic homicides committed during the lock down where the deceased tested positive for COVID and was rung up as a COVID death. There is quite a bit of evidence (not conspiracy sites, but actual evidence I am certain you are aware of) pointing to hospitals getting paid tens of thousands for each COVID death they clocked in, so I can see why many hospitals misappropriated the cause of death for anyone who had COVID in their system when the died. FactCheck.org

When I was in the hospital with my broken arm, that crooked hospital I was in kept my case in legislative hell when they knew I needed my external fixator removed and my bone plated, but despite having openings, they kept me in limbo for several months until just after my insurance expired in December knowing full well I was getting an insurance more favorable to them so they could charge more. Fucking crooks! They then kept sending additional bills every month for nickel and dime BS related to that one surgery which went on for roughly six months! They were evil crooked and only interested in their bottom line, despite having fantastic doctors! I do not have a single doubt in my mind that when you run a hospital like a business, those in charge will be making business decisions, and that means falsely raking up COVID-19 deaths to increase the bottom line. How much of an effect did this have on the reported COVID deaths? I really do not know, but seeing the CDC say 94% of COVID deaths were not directly caused by COVID... well you can say it gets me concerned that greed might be trumping ethics.
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What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 04-29-2021, 06:17 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Lissa - 04-29-2021, 11:23 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-01-2021, 08:23 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Lissa - 05-02-2021, 02:08 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-03-2021, 06:36 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-03-2021, 10:24 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-03-2021, 11:22 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LennyLen - 05-04-2021, 12:00 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LemmingofGlory - 05-07-2021, 01:42 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Kevin - 05-08-2021, 03:30 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by DeeBye - 05-02-2021, 02:46 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-03-2021, 06:12 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Quark - 05-03-2021, 02:53 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-08-2021, 09:11 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-08-2021, 03:42 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-09-2021, 07:09 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-09-2021, 05:45 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-10-2021, 09:02 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-10-2021, 11:43 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Kevin - 05-11-2021, 01:17 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-12-2021, 04:09 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Lissa - 05-12-2021, 08:48 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-13-2021, 11:49 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-13-2021, 10:46 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-14-2021, 03:45 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LavCat - 05-14-2021, 05:00 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-14-2021, 12:51 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-14-2021, 09:12 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-15-2021, 12:26 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-14-2021, 02:17 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-14-2021, 02:41 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Bolty - 05-08-2021, 06:22 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-09-2021, 07:31 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-09-2021, 07:43 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LavCat - 05-14-2021, 08:20 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-15-2021, 09:54 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 05-15-2021, 06:49 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-15-2021, 09:38 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 05-19-2021, 04:43 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-20-2021, 07:36 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-15-2021, 12:21 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 05-18-2021, 03:25 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-19-2021, 01:37 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LavCat - 05-18-2021, 04:29 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LavCat - 05-22-2021, 02:08 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 06-05-2021, 02:24 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 06-08-2021, 04:29 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by fresh_meat - 06-28-2022, 03:44 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 07-23-2022, 09:45 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by fresh_meat - 07-28-2022, 04:43 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 08-02-2022, 03:21 AM

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