[quote='kandrathe' pid='213883' dateline='1498705143']
To me religious education is child abuse. And I don't mean educate kids about different views on how the world works, but I mean telling kids God exists and what he can do to you and what they have to do for him.[/quote]This is one of the most ridiculous things you've uttered. Cite any psychological study supporting your belief.
Here's some relaying the opposite, or in that the more affiliated you are with an organized religion, the fewer antisocial behavior is evident.
http://youthandreligion.nd.edu/research-findings/
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depends what you call antisocial. If you are praying to Mekka several times per day in a village in Utah, that is pretty antisocial.
There are lots of examples (sorry I am not a link master) of intelligent people who were brought up in very strict christian families who obviously when being in their late teens early twenties started understanding that what they were thought by their parents did not make any logical sense....but the fear in these people (fear for going to hell I guess) brought these people in serious psychological problems.
But more general I think kids should be thought things that are true, not things that their parents believe. I mean, who gives you the right to raise your kid christian? Maybe he wants to be a muslim?
[quote='kandrathe' pid='213883' dateline='1498705143']
What makes sense sociologically for any creed, or even atheists, is to prohibit any exhortation to commit violent acts. For me, that includes many things secular society considers main stream, like euthanasia or capital punishment.
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like those two things are the same......
Noone forces you to euthenise yourself. And to me you don't have the right to tell a person that wants to end his own life that he is not allowed to do so.
[quote='kandrathe' pid='213883' dateline='1498705143']I always get a rash when Europeans mistake our 1st amendment as freedom from religion. What it proscribes is government preference of any creed, or interference with a person freedom of thought. It is supposed to prevent the government from involvement with an individual's practice or not of their chosen faith.
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Your constitution was written in a completely different time and needs to be updated. It is sad to see this very old document is always used by some people to for example allow everyone to walk around with guns.....when there is no strong government indeed having the possibility to fight for your justice is a good thing.....but in a western developed society it brings only problems.........same goes for the misuse of the freedom of religion amendment.
To me religious education is child abuse. And I don't mean educate kids about different views on how the world works, but I mean telling kids God exists and what he can do to you and what they have to do for him.[/quote]This is one of the most ridiculous things you've uttered. Cite any psychological study supporting your belief.
Here's some relaying the opposite, or in that the more affiliated you are with an organized religion, the fewer antisocial behavior is evident.
http://youthandreligion.nd.edu/research-findings/
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depends what you call antisocial. If you are praying to Mekka several times per day in a village in Utah, that is pretty antisocial.
There are lots of examples (sorry I am not a link master) of intelligent people who were brought up in very strict christian families who obviously when being in their late teens early twenties started understanding that what they were thought by their parents did not make any logical sense....but the fear in these people (fear for going to hell I guess) brought these people in serious psychological problems.
But more general I think kids should be thought things that are true, not things that their parents believe. I mean, who gives you the right to raise your kid christian? Maybe he wants to be a muslim?
[quote='kandrathe' pid='213883' dateline='1498705143']
What makes sense sociologically for any creed, or even atheists, is to prohibit any exhortation to commit violent acts. For me, that includes many things secular society considers main stream, like euthanasia or capital punishment.
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like those two things are the same......
Noone forces you to euthenise yourself. And to me you don't have the right to tell a person that wants to end his own life that he is not allowed to do so.
[quote='kandrathe' pid='213883' dateline='1498705143']I always get a rash when Europeans mistake our 1st amendment as freedom from religion. What it proscribes is government preference of any creed, or interference with a person freedom of thought. It is supposed to prevent the government from involvement with an individual's practice or not of their chosen faith.
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Your constitution was written in a completely different time and needs to be updated. It is sad to see this very old document is always used by some people to for example allow everyone to walk around with guns.....when there is no strong government indeed having the possibility to fight for your justice is a good thing.....but in a western developed society it brings only problems.........same goes for the misuse of the freedom of religion amendment.