So Paris Accord....
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(06-05-2017, 08:42 PM)kandrathe Wrote:
(06-05-2017, 08:45 AM)eppie Wrote: Most good calculations show that investing in a green economy actually is good for the economy and can make you earn money.
The problem is that the people who are now in big oil and coal will have take losses....and other people will have more chance of making money.
This is the reason why the oil lobby groups (which have 100s of times more budget than climate scientists) still try to blind us and make us think climate change is not true.
Overall, true.

But, since the advent of human settlements burning wood in fireplaces and hearths, stoves, then coal fired generators, then internal combustion engines, no one paid anything towards the cost of air pollution, going then into (fresh/ocean) water and ground pollution. Nature has acted as a sponge sequestering a big amount of human activity up to a tipping point, which we've clearly passed (due to the ever rising amount of GHG's).

We need to transition to cleaner energy. But, I don't believe we can leap directly to 100% clean energy without massive economic disruption (like epic, we're all gonna drop everything and build some huge energy pyramids type disruption).

Much of the foot dragging in the USA is at regional power producing giants, like Dominion, Duke, First Energy, Exelon, NextEra, Southern Company, and American Electric Power. We probably cannot wait for the customers served by them to rally, or the State legislators to stand against their lobbying power. External political and investor pressure needs to help nudge them towards a cleaner, cheaper energy future. Mostly we need to target the old and dirty power plants for closure, and provide incentives for cost effective renewable plants.

I started this thread strictly on the topic of the uselessness or to be more accurate, destructive uselessness of the Paris accords. However, as we have diverged.....:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...pers-2017/
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So Paris Accord.... - by Ashock - 06-02-2017, 06:33 PM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by Quark - 06-02-2017, 07:50 PM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by Ashock - 06-02-2017, 08:19 PM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by Sir_Die_alot - 06-02-2017, 11:47 PM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by Jester - 06-03-2017, 10:43 AM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by Sir_Die_alot - 06-03-2017, 10:29 PM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by Lissa - 06-03-2017, 11:15 PM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by Jester - 06-04-2017, 09:10 AM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by kandrathe - 06-02-2017, 08:39 PM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by DeeBye - 06-04-2017, 04:28 AM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by roguebanshee - 06-04-2017, 01:08 PM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by kandrathe - 06-04-2017, 08:03 AM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by kandrathe - 06-04-2017, 01:40 PM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by eppie - 06-05-2017, 08:45 AM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by kandrathe - 06-05-2017, 08:42 PM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by Ashock - 06-07-2017, 04:55 PM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by FireIceTalon - 06-05-2017, 02:01 PM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by Ashock - 06-05-2017, 03:39 PM
RE: So Paris Accord.... - by Ashock - 07-03-2017, 06:59 PM

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