05-14-2017, 01:53 AM
(05-14-2017, 01:00 AM)GhastMaster Wrote:(05-13-2017, 05:07 PM)kandrathe Wrote:(05-13-2017, 02:05 AM)GhastMaster Wrote: #2 "Gender Identity" is barely definable. It seems like feeling. Science/logic and feelings go together like oil and water.I agree with all, but would comment on #2.
Gender Identity for me is an extension of individual liberty. If a persons psychology leads them into a set of harmless behaviors, then why should the society feel the need to shame, denounce, or make laws to force people into a normative box? So, yes, it might be a feeling, or it might be deeper innate psychology. Either way, our concern for other people's psychology should be more focused on those that lead to destructive behaviors.
As a tech geek, I always had a lower opinion of the soft sciences, like economics, sociology, or psychology. But, the fates would direct my computer science into data science, and now into sociological research. I see better now that often the difference with these newer sciences is some tolerance for bad experimentation, something which took a few hundred years to exorcise from the physical sciences. The standards of quality in published research in all sciences these days are head and shoulders better than a few decades ago.
I agree with the individual liberty aspect. Behaviors not effecting third parties generally should not be governed. Shame, denouncement, and intolerance are one thing. Laws are another. Laws should not infringe on personal liberty. I think a lot like Ben Shapiro when it comes to trans issues. I consider trans a mental disorder(I am not a Psychologist). I think MD's who practice genital mutilation on these people are making it worse for them. I don't remember the suicide rates, but I believe they were the same for post and pre op, which indicates the transition is not helpful mentally. I feel sorry for people who have the LGBT tendencies. Most I have met are very unstable, insecure, and generally miserable. I think it stems from the confusion.
They are outside the norm.
When you are outside the norm politically it is hard to stay sane! That is why you try to change the politics of the people around you and vote to promote your politics. It is my opinion that LGBT feel the same way about LGBT and want it to be the norm when it is not. Nearly everyone wants to feel normal.
As someone LGBT I feel neither insane nor miserable.
"I may be old, but I'm not dead."