(01-28-2017, 03:33 PM)Jester Wrote:First, if you are a climate scientist, I apologize for calling you incestuous. Second, the truth about the dismal state of climate science hurts. Finally, there is no ability to compromise when even disagreeing with the percentage of adherents to the religion of climate science brands you a heretic, ousts you from any professional positions, rescinds your funding, and bars you from being allowed to publish in your discipline.(01-28-2017, 02:58 PM)kandrathe Wrote: I have little trust of this incestuous mob of witch burners. If they were truly scientists, they would fully embrace the contrary views, and the opportunity to disprove them with the power of science. But, the whole mess is more reminiscent of the inquisition out to purify the faithful.
So, um, just to point out, you were the one calling for compromise and cooperation in the other thread. And yet, here you're calling climate scientists (as a group, not just some individuals) an "incestuous mob of witch burners." Either we can be cooperative, acknowledge contrary viewpoints, and encourage open debate focusing on the science, or we can call each other rude names. But it's both nonsensical and hypocritical to throw out statements like this on one hand, and then call for transcending the political mudfight on the other.
-Jester
For example, https://judithcurry.com
Quote:A deciding factor was that I no longer know what to say to students and postdocs regarding how to navigate the CRAZINESS in the field of climate science. Research and other professional activities are professionally rewarded only if they are channeled in certain directions approved by a politicized academic establishment — funding, ease of getting your papers published, getting hired in prestigious positions, appointments to prestigious committees and boards, professional recognition, etc.
How young scientists are to navigate all this is beyond me, and it often becomes a battle of scientific integrity versus career suicide (I have worked through these issues with a number of skeptical young scientists).
Or, http://www.thegwpf.com/roger-pielke-jr-m...e-heretic/
Quote:Instead, my research was under constant attack for years by activists, journalists and politicians. In 2011 writers in the journal Foreign Policy signaled that some accused me of being a “climate-change denier.” I earned the title, the authors explained, by “questioning certain graphs presented in IPCC reports.” That an academic who raised questions about the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in an area of his expertise was tarred as a denier reveals the groupthink at work.