07-08-2015, 05:37 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-08-2015, 05:28 PM by FireIceTalon.)
@Lem
I don't think regarding being offended as useful or not really matters. It is just a fact of life, if people use language that has an inherently negative context towards a certain identity, there will be people who get offended. This seems like a cop out to me, to try and justify the use of said language and place the blame on the people who object to its usage.
Kandrathes post, even his last reply (unsuccessfully) defending what he said, still has more than one untenable problems with it (regardless if it is directed at Marx or any other person) and I was going to type a response out for him. But I decided not to for now, because 1. it will probably just devolve into another Libertarian vs. Marxist brawl, and 2. I am too tired and lazy do so right now.
@ Taem,
I don't think the entire world outside of America uses the word "nigger", and I would bet that in fact it is more or less limited to skin-heads, neo-nazis, and white nationalist/fascist types for the most part. You know, groups that are the lowest scum of the earth. And even if it were the case of it being popular outside America, it hardly justifies its usage, in any context unless it is a critique of the word itself. To say otherwise is a completely untenable position, as well as an appeal to popularity fallacy.
I don't think regarding being offended as useful or not really matters. It is just a fact of life, if people use language that has an inherently negative context towards a certain identity, there will be people who get offended. This seems like a cop out to me, to try and justify the use of said language and place the blame on the people who object to its usage.
Kandrathes post, even his last reply (unsuccessfully) defending what he said, still has more than one untenable problems with it (regardless if it is directed at Marx or any other person) and I was going to type a response out for him. But I decided not to for now, because 1. it will probably just devolve into another Libertarian vs. Marxist brawl, and 2. I am too tired and lazy do so right now.
@ Taem,
I don't think the entire world outside of America uses the word "nigger", and I would bet that in fact it is more or less limited to skin-heads, neo-nazis, and white nationalist/fascist types for the most part. You know, groups that are the lowest scum of the earth. And even if it were the case of it being popular outside America, it hardly justifies its usage, in any context unless it is a critique of the word itself. To say otherwise is a completely untenable position, as well as an appeal to popularity fallacy.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)
"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)