US Supreme Court Legalizes Gay Marriage

[kandrathe]

Interestingly enough, it was Lenin and the Bolsheviks who legalized homosexuality after centuries of repression against queers under capitalist, Tsarist leadership. Perhaps you should you should put the Ayn Rand novels down and read a little more about the history of socialism (and no, The Black Book of Communism doesn't count).

Um, yup. For roughly a decade, and I do mean roughly, because it was more on paper than in reality. Uncle Joe Stalin, purged those brave enough to have taken up Mr. Lenin on his forward human rights agenda. So, my advice is you might want to also put the Ayn Rand novels down and read a little more about the history of socialism (and no, The Black Book of Communism doesn't count).

And my friend, the only thing utopian are people like you who hold the myopic and EXTREMELY mechanical, deterministic view that capitalism represents the end of history.

Well, you don't know that I am utopian at all. Perhaps I'm just nihilistic. Perhaps we are doomed to a fate of servitude.

This system is already imploding across the globe, and I would say to think that this system can continue as it is, unabated, without any kind of radical social change taking place in the future - THAT is utopian thinking. It is not the Marxists who are utopian, it is the historians who view history in a deterministic linear, and non-dialectical fashion and think that society stays stagnant that are the utopian ones.

Yadda yadda yadda imploding, yadda yadda. Yup, since the late 1800's.

Perhaps because Marxism does a BETTER job at explaining and understanding the world as it actually is, than mainstream political theories do? I'm sure that didn't occur to ya.

Oh, it did, then I studied it in depth and rejected it. Perhaps you can not conceive of some one with a different experience, or view point?

If I found other methods to be better, I would adopt those, but very clearly they aren't. It is you, not I, that sticks to a particular framework for the sake of holding up your ideology in favor of actually understanding the material workings of the world.

I choose to remain grounded in the framework of reality as it is.

You make 50 bucks an hour, it is probably not in your class interests to adhere to a framework that slaughters your sacred cows and challenges your PRIVILEGED position in society, no matter how truthful that framework may be. Given you are part of the so-called labor aristocracy, your dislike of Marxism comes as no surprise, really. Your credibility on Marxism's legitimacy as a paradigm, is at best, shoddy.

I see you prefer to make up facts, like my wages, and draw conclusions from your twisted fantasies. I guess in order to understand, I would need to be like Karl Marx, an unemployed parasite, mooching off Friedrich Engels Jr. who was supported by his fathers textile company. Or, perhaps, just a mediocre political science student with little post baccalaureate prospect kissing the behinds of Marxian faculty in the back waters of Wyoming.

My guess is that you have long lost any objectivity to the reality of normal people, as well as any sense of humor.

For the remainder of our imminent disagreement perhaps we might just re-read the history --> http://www.lurkerlounge.com/forums/thread-13138.html

I doubt anything substantively different would emerge from further tilting at this windmill.