The establishment vs Uber
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(06-22-2014, 11:37 PM)FireIceTalon Wrote: You guys went there not me. But have at it.
Went there? Everybody south of the north pole lives there (in the capitalist free market economic system). I recall I mentioned regulation of Uber and the (lack of) possibility of creative destruction... then a left turn to Rue Marxism. I take the blame for opening the door to any discussion of economics...

Quote:At the end of the day, who cares really, where my politics lie? I don't see how this should even matter.
Except, you do keep going there. You tried to comment on Schumpter, but you don't understand (and came across ignorant). I offer you a reasoned approach to correct this, to read his most notable work, thus enlightening yourself and you decline as you are offended by the first few sentences of chapter one. But, study of economics isn't like the Gong Show. I've slogged through mountains of ideas I've directly disagreed with, only to better understand why they might be wrong, or possibly right. In fact, it is often the most convoluted and poorly written books (e.g. Hegel) which I painstakingly must spend the most time with to attempt understanding of the authors premise. You see, no one has all the answers, but many economists have some answers and in their ideas there are insights into a dynamic and complicated system.

Then you hurl out your truthi-isms, like;[... The theory has absolutely been through the wringer and then some, and yet it has come out unscathed. ...]Unscathed? Yet, according to you untested, unproven, and never properly implemented. Let me ask then? Who, in the "REAL WORLD", uses any of it on a day to day basis for solving "REAL WORLD" problems? If it's the cat's mewow, why isn't it more ubiquitous?

According to the rest of the world (those of us south of the north pole, mostly, utter dismal failure resulting in decades of suffering, mass executions, wars -- wasting lives, time and natural resources. Yeah, yeah, I know. Not really implemented. But, you know what? You really need to read some prominent Soviet economists, like Vasily Selyunin's reflections on the USSR, then comment on how responsible Marxism/Leninism (the IDEOLOGY) was in shaping politics and economics in the latter half of the twentieth.

Sometimes it's hard to admit that one man's ideas can shape the world towards evil, such as say Martin Luther. But, in reflection I don't believe there are many open minded people who would deny his role in bringing about the holocaust. I might say the same thing for any number of our US presidents, Wilson, FDR, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon -- all had have done some good, and some bad.

It takes an open mind to reflect on people ideas and legacy honestly, especially the ones with which you wholeheartedly agree, or vehemently oppose.
”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

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The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-12-2014, 02:04 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Jester - 06-15-2014, 03:22 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-16-2014, 02:09 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by FireIceTalon - 06-17-2014, 08:56 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Jester - 06-17-2014, 11:25 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-16-2014, 07:14 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-18-2014, 12:02 AM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by FireIceTalon - 06-18-2014, 06:01 AM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Jester - 06-18-2014, 11:16 AM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-18-2014, 04:59 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by FireIceTalon - 06-18-2014, 05:35 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Jester - 06-18-2014, 11:42 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by FireIceTalon - 06-19-2014, 05:13 AM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Jester - 06-19-2014, 01:19 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-19-2014, 03:42 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by FireIceTalon - 06-19-2014, 05:35 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Hammerskjold - 06-21-2014, 05:29 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-21-2014, 11:03 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by FireIceTalon - 06-22-2014, 12:26 AM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Jester - 06-22-2014, 06:36 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Hammerskjold - 06-22-2014, 09:49 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-23-2014, 04:07 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Hammerskjold - 06-23-2014, 06:39 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-23-2014, 09:05 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Hammerskjold - 06-23-2014, 11:41 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by FireIceTalon - 06-18-2014, 04:34 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Hammerskjold - 06-19-2014, 02:40 AM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by FireIceTalon - 06-22-2014, 11:37 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-23-2014, 03:43 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by FireIceTalon - 06-23-2014, 05:46 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Quark - 06-23-2014, 04:11 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Jester - 06-23-2014, 09:29 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-23-2014, 05:56 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-24-2014, 06:23 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Hammerskjold - 06-25-2014, 08:57 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-27-2014, 04:29 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by FireIceTalon - 06-27-2014, 05:46 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-27-2014, 07:50 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Kevin - 06-27-2014, 08:51 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-27-2014, 09:40 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by FireIceTalon - 06-27-2014, 09:58 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-28-2014, 06:22 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by LochnarITB - 06-27-2014, 11:17 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Hammerskjold - 06-28-2014, 08:17 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-28-2014, 09:15 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by FireIceTalon - 06-27-2014, 08:08 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 06-27-2014, 08:47 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by FireIceTalon - 06-27-2014, 09:09 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by Hammerskjold - 06-28-2014, 05:15 PM
RE: The establishment vs Uber - by kandrathe - 07-02-2014, 05:57 PM

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