11-08-2013, 03:20 PM
(11-08-2013, 02:27 PM)kandrathe Wrote: Then art criticism can be replaced by box office gross? It sounds like you are saying that quality, and artistry is irrelevant to popularity, and profits.
It sounds like you can't or won't into reading comprehension.
I'll say it bluntly and simpler for you.
Quality is almost always balanced by the return of investment, because this is still show -business-. Read that again please, biz...nisce.
There are projects that yes, damn the returns and the torpedoes, because the people paying the investments know they might not get a monetary return, and they're fine with that. It's rare, but not impossible. Sometimes it's just a demo\experiment, or letting some steam off just for the fun of it, or a skunkwork project for the creatives.
That doesn't mean that a commercial film can not have beautiful, artistic merit, or quality subjectively or objectively speaking. All of that is still balanced by mundane, practical, and necessary things like are we at least breaking even with this, are we seeing any profit, monetary or otherwise like reputation\cred.
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And... I'm not saying that Gravity lacks artistry. Just that I separate popularity from quality.
But you basically...just did. And that's your problem by the way, not mine. I have no qualms with acknowledging quality in a popular work.
A work that is popular doesn't diminish it's quality in my eyes. Otherwise, I'd throw out my boxed set of Louis Armstrong Jazz collection, because oh noes, he's popular! -True- Jazz lovers would disapprove! (Armstrong? Noob stuff everyone has heard of...I only listen to super obscure stuff therefore quality...hipsterism intensifies) Oh what am I going to do?!
Oh yeah, not give a flying house of....dagger, and keep listening and enjoying my Louis Armstrong.
Quote:Hollywood would have us paint more...
Hollywood doesn't have that much power. If you think it does, then that might be your problem, not mine.
If you want to talk about critiquing paintings, or go off in yet another tangent that doesn't actually have anything to do with the topic, feel free to do so in another thread. In a movie discussion review, I'll say this again.
It would be really helpful to see the movie in question. Benefit being the viewer\ discussion participant then may or may not have an informed opinion, instead of just an opinion that they simply must express.
Allrighty? If there's anything else on topic I don't mind discussing them here. Otherwise, really, I suggest trying out that 'New Topic' button whenever you have the urge to diverge. There's meandering, then there's attempted derailment. I think we've had far too much of the latter lately.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZlNNSjsELs