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[LemmingofGlory]

Seriously? That's about the most batshit insane line of reasoning I've heard.

I don't think eppie's reasoning is quite as connected as you hope it to be. It seems likely to me that there are either internal inconsistencies, a lack of perspective on creativity, or very different uses of the word "respect". I can make a case for the latter.

The word "respect" is loaded (though not quite as much as "love") because it can connote different intensities of reverence. It can be used to acknowledge or to indicate appreciation or to indicate approbation. My impression is you're arguing that musicians (like teh beebz) deserve to be acknowledged when they have created something that shows craftsmanship. It's not necessary to appreciate their work or to shower it with praise.

I get the impression eppie is using the word "respect" with more intensity. The idea that someone has to earn your respect by doing something that you appreciate is the sense of the word I'm getting from "someone who makes millions by singing crappy songs does not earn my respect." Notice the use of crappy, which indicates that the stronger sense of the word. That's not just saying "It must show craftsmanship" but "It must be something that doesn't suck."

That's the argument I feel like I've been watching.

-Lem