DOMA and Prop 8. Both History.

[Hammerskjold]

Eee no, I am neither a professional athlete nor a musician.
Still I don't see what the point is. I am amazed and excited about a song or a great goal...but thinking more of the person who achieves this?

I didn't ask if you were a pro. I asked if you ever attempted any of the example endeavours, at a pro level. Even something simple like a pro level exercise\training. Physical or otherwise.

I didn't ask why anyone would 'think more of the person who achieves this'. Unless it's a language factor, that you wrote that makes me wonder if you understand that a slam dunk or any creative thing doesn't just automagically pops out.

When seeing a professional athlete up close (I have had the chance to talk a few minutes to one of the better NBA center of the 90's) you can get flabbergasted and don't know what to say (of course I was a teenager at that time) but if his achievements in professional sports made me respect him more?

I didn't ask you to pay respect to these people -ON A PERSONAL LEVEL-. Please stop talking like I asked you to. edited clarification: (As if I asked anyone to pay 'spects to them on a personal level that is. Don't read that as me telling you to stop talking. Ah the english langwich. )

Still getting back to your question. Thinking that somebody does great at sports is not the same as respecting that person.

Great. Because that's not what I said at all. There's the craft\art\vocation, and the humanoid.

I can loathe someone and have little to no respect for them on a -personal- level, but still give credit where craft is concerned.

If you still think I'm advocating people to genuflect and throw rose petals on the floor for athletes and musicians. I'm not sure what to say.

/Separating art from artist, how do they work?!111