06-27-2013, 09:17 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-27-2013, 09:44 PM by FireIceTalon.)
We've been over this a million times before. The government AIN'T gonna stay out, because the capitalist system, a system of class antagonisms, REQUIRES state intervention for the entire social order to maintain its very existence. All this talk that "if the government would just stay out, the system would work fine" is just libertopia fantasies, and is completely nonsensical. Conservatives/right-wingers want no government involvement when it comes to economics, but want ALL the government in the world regarding social issues - and naive liberals are just the very opposite. Both of them live in fantasy worlds.
What I do worry about though is the fact that now because gays and lesbians can marry, that people will think the problem is solved. Bourgeois values hold that if people are equal before the law, then equality has been realized - though this is also nonsensical as seen in the case with racial minorities. On paper, they are to be treated the same as anyone else before the law, but in practice ofc this is far from the case. It's the same bullshit logic that dipshits like Oprah and Will Smith used when Obama became president ("we got a black president now, so blacks can't make excuses anymore!", as if the oppression and discrimination of minorities suddenly came to a screeching halt upon Obama's election). Also, I think there could be a reactionary backlash in some communities to this decision, which could compound the social stratification of gays and lesbians in those areas (like in areas where there is a stronger religious fervor). Issues like this are not just a political or legal thing, they are a social entity with social repercussions as well, and these correspond to the entire social order (capitalism) that they are structured around. Fuck this system, and its shady, backwards, outdated values.
What I do worry about though is the fact that now because gays and lesbians can marry, that people will think the problem is solved. Bourgeois values hold that if people are equal before the law, then equality has been realized - though this is also nonsensical as seen in the case with racial minorities. On paper, they are to be treated the same as anyone else before the law, but in practice ofc this is far from the case. It's the same bullshit logic that dipshits like Oprah and Will Smith used when Obama became president ("we got a black president now, so blacks can't make excuses anymore!", as if the oppression and discrimination of minorities suddenly came to a screeching halt upon Obama's election). Also, I think there could be a reactionary backlash in some communities to this decision, which could compound the social stratification of gays and lesbians in those areas (like in areas where there is a stronger religious fervor). Issues like this are not just a political or legal thing, they are a social entity with social repercussions as well, and these correspond to the entire social order (capitalism) that they are structured around. Fuck this system, and its shady, backwards, outdated values.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (on capitalist laws and institutions)
"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (on capitalist laws and institutions)