05-30-2013, 05:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-30-2013, 06:35 PM by FireIceTalon.)
No. I was referring to the average, everyday American that I see engaging in political discourse that thinks America is this little shining city on the hill that can do no wrong, and that the "big bad commies" (or whoever makes the best scapegoat of the day, right now Islamphobia is the current fad) are the evil of the world. According to them, someone like me wants to take away all their rights and control them (which is of course nonsense). Why, did you think I was referencing you (or someone else here on LL)? That isn't my style man. If I want to call someone out specifically, I do so. But I don't think you are an idiot (and in fact I think you generally mean well, which is more than I can say for most libertarians that I've encountered), I just strongly disagree with your views of human nature, and as a natural result, your politics and views of the world also. I think the term "idiot" is more appropriately reserved for guys like Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh, and a majority of their followers. At least with you, I can have a semi-civil discussion on capitalism vs. socialism. With a Glenn Beck fanboy, I would immediately be dismissed as a blood-thirsty dictator and murderer the moment I mentioned myself as a Marxist (which would be at the beginning of almost any political conversation, since I am very honest and upfront about my political stance - I don't try to hide or make any agenda subtle), and being able to have any meaningful discussion would be impossible and therefore I would just leave, since there would be absolutely no way I could communicate my perspective to them. Not without being demonized or seen as an abomination from the get-go. It was mostly these types I had in mind when I typed my previous post.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)