Maryland abolishes death penalty.
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(05-22-2013, 02:58 PM)eppie Wrote: so just like a real communist state has never had the chance of evolving, a real capitalist free society has also never been reality.

This is sort of a false dichotomy though, eppie. For the communist part, only Stalinists (and I suppose Maoists) want a "communist state", because they believe that the philosophy of 'socialism in one country' works. For pretty much every other communist, the word "communist state" is an oxymoron and implies that capitalism still exists. Communism is intrinsically an internationalist ideology - Stalinism not withstanding. For the capitalist part of your statement, I assume by "capitalist free society" you mean a completely unregulated market system, am I correct? If so, you are mostly correct, though Somalia comes damn close (minus its extreme religious fundamentalist overtones). And such a system never could work, despite what Tea Party idiots and wacky anarcho-capitalists and libertarians will tell you. Any system that consists of a ruling class and a subordinate class requires a state for that system to exist for any meaningful length of time, by default. Of course, most neo-liberals, despite what they spout off, REALLY do want regulation - but only when it benefits them (for example when they make risky bets on Wall Street and lose, then have the state socialize their losses with workers dollars). Additionally, the functions of a capitalistic economy need an instrument of some sort (that instrument being the state) to sign corruptible deals with sponsoring dictators, controlling the money supply, finding new markets by investing a shitload of money into research and development, throwing a trillion or two dollars at the banks when capitalism kicks the bucket for the umpteenth time, and then investing in new war machine technology to conquer resource-rich countries markets. All of these things are required for the expansion of international markets, accumulation, and profits. Capitalism without a state is far more utopian (or dystopian, depending on which side you are on) than any form of socialist thought, and it will never happen - at least I hope it doesn't because it would look like something out of Mad Max III, most likely....'two men enter, 1 man leaves".
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RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-14-2013, 12:56 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-14-2013, 01:18 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-15-2013, 07:33 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-15-2013, 03:23 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-16-2013, 12:23 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-15-2013, 06:57 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 03:22 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by Taem - 05-16-2013, 06:15 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 01:17 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-16-2013, 01:31 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 01:27 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 02:49 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 03:36 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 05:56 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 06:29 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-22-2013, 07:08 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-22-2013, 01:23 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-22-2013, 02:58 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-22-2013, 05:37 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-23-2013, 06:56 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by FireIceTalon - 05-22-2013, 06:08 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-23-2013, 03:21 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-23-2013, 07:28 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-23-2013, 08:02 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-24-2013, 06:47 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-24-2013, 11:41 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by Jester - 05-28-2013, 10:50 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-30-2013, 06:34 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by Jester - 05-30-2013, 01:58 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-30-2013, 02:51 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by Jester - 05-30-2013, 03:37 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-31-2013, 06:28 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by Jester - 05-31-2013, 12:13 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-31-2013, 04:13 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by LavCat - 05-30-2013, 08:26 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-24-2013, 02:07 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by LavCat - 05-31-2013, 04:11 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-31-2013, 05:44 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 06-10-2013, 01:35 PM

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