05-22-2013, 08:09 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-22-2013, 09:37 AM by FireIceTalon.)
(05-22-2013, 07:08 AM)eppie Wrote: Well Kandrathe, you are looking at things very much form your local perspective.
The capitalist world (yes also China, Russia, India behave capitalist) contains a billion people who are at risk of starving and even a few billion below the poverty line.
We can't conclude that capitalism 'works'. Maybe we will in the future, maybe it is the best system possible, but there is absolutely no reason to be smug and satisfied about it. Well unless you live in the US and have a nice laptop with a 100MB internet connection of course.
As of a 2008 report, an average of about 25,000 people per day starve to death or die from malnutrition (global). The UN has been keeping track of roughly how many children under the age of 5 die per year due to starvation and preventable diseases, since 1991, and the total is about 9 million per year. Hmmm, so that right there, is roughly 198 million deaths for that demographic in the last 22 years alone, thanks to capitalism. So much for the logic of supply and demand, aye? Capitalism is an epic failure on every level, and such statistics as this are self-evidence of it. In short, FUCK THIS SYSTEM.
I live in the US. I own a laptop (i forget what my internet connection is at the moment but its quite good enough overall). And compared to many of my fellow workers, both here and abroad (especially in places like Greece, which definitely has the makings of the possibility of a socialist revolution), I have it fairly good. But that doesnt matter, it of course goes without saying that I am anti-capitalist, much less happy and smug about it. I have nothing but pure contempt and venomous hatred of this system, to the point where the word "hate" is not strong enough to accurately describe how I feel about it. That said, I can't let that get in the way of providing a proper material analysis of the system, no matter how much people like Shoju and Kandrathe troll. I just finished my spring semester and have a few months off now, during this time I wish to delve more into Marxian Economics and get a sharper understanding the materialist dialectic (and tackle at least part of Capital Vol.1 finally), since I have a pretty solid understanding of Marxism the socio-political system by now.
I could take the time to post a well thought out reply as I have done earlier in this thread; and destroy the many half-truths, falsehoods, and meaningless idealistic analysis that fails to separate appearance from essence nonsense (all wrapped up in your prototypical capitalist folklore and mythology) in Kandrathe's last post relatively easily, but he clearly lives in his privileged little bubble, so I won't waste my time anymore.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)