LED lighting, and a small ranty rant,

[Hammerskjold]

People in power seldom surrender their power.

Yep. I'm a firm believer after I saw with my own eyes (both better and worse), the saying 'you want to see someone's true character? Don't give them adversity. Give them power.'

Now having said that, addiction to power is not, has never been, and will never be exclusive to gub'ment alone. Seriously, let's not be too cute or so blinded by our own beef whether that's red bourginon flavoured, or USDA beef.

It's not really that misleading if you review the whole case. He never had anything to do with growing pot. He sold equipment that ended up being used by people who grew pot. They found a way to railroad him into jail.

Yes, yes it is misleading to leave out the 'Is America's Drug War Worth It?' part of the headline. I'll address this not as a 'War on Drugs' point, which I said is outside the scope of this discussion and thread for me.

I will address this as a reading comprehension point. If you choose to continue on about this point, it's horseglue to me and I already bought some at the office.

That article is not about OMG ILLEGAL incan lights, anymore than someone facing a grow op charge is arrested -solely because- they are facing a charge of illegally re-wiring a house without a permit.
It's the weakest of weaksauce, if anyone actually believes the article is about a man who was arrested solely for selling incan bulbs.

I read that article and I stand by my point. If he was selling LED grow lamps, that may or may not be used for marijuana, instead of incan bulbs. The prosecutor may still throw a 'selling drug paraphenalia' charge.

If for argument sake, he ran across a street while resisting arrest, it's not unthinkable an overzealous prosecutor would also tack on a charge for jaywalking. Now I can agree that would fall under over-reach, unwanted reach around intrusion. But the over reach is not about 'man arrested just for jaywalking', and not about selling 'illegal' lamps.

Are you going to believe an article is about government over-reach if you read an article with the headline as:

MAN ARRESTED BY FBI FOR JAYWALKING!....smaller text on actual article\or put up as a link but conveniently left out the following part: after he was accused of assault and fled the scene on foot, after a claimed barfight with an off duty FBI agent...OMG IT'S GOV'T INTRUSION GONE MAD.

When Incans become illegal in the US, someone smuggles them into the US, and was making a huge amount of money, they'd put them away. They will find a way.

...Get real. No one will bother to send the black roflcopters after you or me, holy crap I have 5 incan bulbs on fixtures in my house, a couple of unopened boxes of hot wire bulbs, and a shady contact who can get me some spicy Mexican Tungsten. And next year my province is phasing out incan!

I'm an outlaw and wanted man! (Ladies...chk chk)


Except for those deemed to be appliance use. And Halogen (which AFAIK is in the incan family but -slightly- more efficient, is not grouped in) is not affected, and is increasingly appearing in sockets and form factors that fits in traditional incan setups.

http://www.fastcoexist.com/1678387/kill-...not-banned

Halogen can be more expensive at the moment, but let's deal out some facts and less FUDs yes? Let's. Incandescents are cheaper. Some of the lifetime ratings are at best a crapshoot. I've used some that went out after a week, some lasted months. Under identical usage patterns. Besides the larger power draw, it isn't cheap or convenient if I am using it in a heavy usage area, and I have to replace them more often.

There is no substitute for them yet in high temp use (ovens), which is why there is usually an appliance clause, or lower than a certain wattage exemption.

In usage where a high CRI is needed, there are high CRI (85-90+) fluorescent and halogen bulbs that have already been in use and for sale. Even LEDs are gaining on this front. Whether that's advancement in the direction of white LEDs or RGB=White LEDs, that's still in play. But it is advancing.


The rest of your points, as interesting and debatable as they are, I think is better addressed in a separate thread. At least for clarity sake. The Lounge may be known for going off on a tangent, but I'm old now (read: cranky) and I like things to be grouped more easily so I don't lose them. WHO HID MY GLASSES!!!1111 Oh there they are. Who hid them on the top of my head?!111