05-14-2013, 02:08 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2013, 06:16 AM by FireIceTalon.)
^^A horrible story indeed. My heart goes out to her family.
That being said, I still cannot support the death penalty in the big picture (even if guys like the one you posted probably deserve it) under a capitalist system - it is the same thing as murder except it is sanctioned by the state. It is a expensive, outdated, draconian law...and furthermore it is a very poor deterrent for crime (since almost all crime is a product of the material conditions and highly stressful environment of capitalism, and will occur so long as social and economic inequalities persist). Under a more humane social organization of society my opinion could very well change, I don't know. We should spend more time attacking problems that create criminal behavior in the first place, instead of focusing on punishing people for what they have done. Another problem with the death penalty is that the very justice system itself is greatly flawed, and heavily rigged against working class people, minorities, or other groups of people who are viewed as "undesirable" or "inferior" from a capitalist culture perspective, so they are overwhelmingly more likely to be charged and convicted than a capitalist or police officer is (even though capitalists and the bourgeois politicians that serve them commit crimes against humanity every single day). Of course, there are exceptions like the guy in your article - right now, I find it inconvenient that I'm an atheist because there is no hell for me to wish him to go to. And yes, Brievek is scum too - total fascist/zionist/chauvinistic murdering piece of shit.
That being said, I still cannot support the death penalty in the big picture (even if guys like the one you posted probably deserve it) under a capitalist system - it is the same thing as murder except it is sanctioned by the state. It is a expensive, outdated, draconian law...and furthermore it is a very poor deterrent for crime (since almost all crime is a product of the material conditions and highly stressful environment of capitalism, and will occur so long as social and economic inequalities persist). Under a more humane social organization of society my opinion could very well change, I don't know. We should spend more time attacking problems that create criminal behavior in the first place, instead of focusing on punishing people for what they have done. Another problem with the death penalty is that the very justice system itself is greatly flawed, and heavily rigged against working class people, minorities, or other groups of people who are viewed as "undesirable" or "inferior" from a capitalist culture perspective, so they are overwhelmingly more likely to be charged and convicted than a capitalist or police officer is (even though capitalists and the bourgeois politicians that serve them commit crimes against humanity every single day). Of course, there are exceptions like the guy in your article - right now, I find it inconvenient that I'm an atheist because there is no hell for me to wish him to go to. And yes, Brievek is scum too - total fascist/zionist/chauvinistic murdering piece of shit.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)