Bourgeois pigs kill suicidal 16 year old boy.

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I don't imagine human being too terribly far off tbh.

According to my genetic engineering friends, they can "trick" cells into regressing to an embryonic state. There is no explicit advantage in experimenting on human fetal tissue. But, yeah, there do need to be some guidelines framing ethical research on all animals, including humans. We pretty much understand the uncorked nuclear genie, but we are just beginning to understand the uncorked bioengineering genie.

Then your understanding of my meaning is quite narrow: LINK

Apparently you didn't read what I wrote earlier about growing kids for their organs. And apparently FIT didn't comprehend it either when he commented back to me about genetic screening.

the family uses pre-implantation genetic diagnosis, or PGD, to create embryos that are each screened for their suitability as a bone marrow donor. Only those that are perfect matches are transferred back into the womb.

This is a reality. Growing children in our wombs for their organs is happening now! Sperm to embryo fertilization's are done all the time outside our bodies in a laboratory: Test Tube Baby!

When will the first child be grown in a lab? Perhaps for their organs? Do you honestly believe we will be able to grow organs separately from the body in a few years time? With the laws for this type of stuff slowly fading into obscurity, I wonder when the rich will have clones nurtured for their organs. Morality stopping us you say? Not if the letter of the law says a child isn't "human" unless they are "born". There are ways around that as I just proved. So if Jester and Shadow want to keep side-stepping my objections by pretending that "birthing" is the only true meaning of being alive.... well then I think they are sadly mistaken, and not from any misguided biblical standpoint, but from a scientific one: Opinion Piece, and Scientific Fact.

Consciousness does not and cannot occur until birth, when the infant is given something different from its previous existence to compare it with. It does have the hard-wired faculty of perception, and even of epistemic logic. But until it is given the gift of the trauma of birth, when all of its senses are sent screaming into its mind--where before there was merely a satisfied watery existence from which it was protected from all senses except perhaps sound--then it never gets the chance to experience perception. Perception is the action upon the brain of sensations, the point at which sensations end and consciousness of them begins.

Ironically, this proves my point even further. The baby is alive and conscious before birth, but being in a more stimulating environment is required for learning and mental growth.