Religion trumping freedom
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Well comrade Team, I wish I could have the same confidence in the system as you do, for things to change. Unfortunately, I cannot. We both want things to be better, but I think you are looking at things cosmetically, and not in the big picture. Women HAVE been more aggressive, and in some ways it has helped such as the First Wave feminist movement as well as Second Wave. Much of the issues from the latter are still issues confronting women today, and let's face it, women in most societies are still very subservient to men, socially, economically, and politically. They are treated as less than humans in many Middle Eastern nation states (religious dogma), and even in places where they have made great progress, there is still a substantial inequality between men and women. After 300+ years of capitalism in industrialized nations, and continued inequality, I am not sure how much more history we need to demonstrate that this system needs to be tossed. And whenever capitalism goes into crisis, as it recently has, women are often one of the demographics who suffer hardest. Them simply being more "aggressive" and thinking that will fix things is a gross oversimplification of the problem, and thus it cannot be a ultimate solution, because it doesn't take into account objective systematic processes.

As for your the nations you mentioned, those are very homogenous examples, so it doesn't really let whites off the hook. Yes, there is class conflict in those nations, but because they are very homogenous, there isn't a very strong element of racism in them compared to America, because there doesn't need to be. Whites in a multi-cultural/racial society have continuously used the concept of biological racism ("the superior race, and the inferior race") to justify and protect their privileged status, and this ideology was formed along with the development of American capitalism. I recently wrote a paper on this very topic in fact, I can PM it to you if you like.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)
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Religion trumping freedom - by Taem - 10-24-2012, 04:18 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by DeeBye - 10-24-2012, 05:49 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by NuurAbSaal - 10-24-2012, 06:20 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by shoju - 10-24-2012, 07:46 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by kandrathe - 10-24-2012, 08:16 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by shoju - 10-25-2012, 01:35 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FoxBat - 10-24-2012, 10:03 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-24-2012, 08:17 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-24-2012, 10:21 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-25-2012, 08:55 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by NuurAbSaal - 10-25-2012, 09:18 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-25-2012, 12:05 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by NuurAbSaal - 10-25-2012, 12:38 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-25-2012, 01:24 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by NuurAbSaal - 10-25-2012, 02:10 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by Taem - 10-25-2012, 04:15 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by kandrathe - 10-25-2012, 09:11 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by Taem - 10-25-2012, 09:53 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-25-2012, 06:00 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-25-2012, 03:28 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by LavCat - 10-26-2012, 01:23 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-26-2012, 01:41 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-26-2012, 05:44 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by LavCat - 10-26-2012, 06:31 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by kandrathe - 10-26-2012, 03:32 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-29-2012, 02:15 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-29-2012, 07:39 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-29-2012, 08:16 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by Taem - 10-29-2012, 09:58 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by LochnarITB - 10-29-2012, 11:05 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-31-2012, 12:57 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by kandrathe - 10-31-2012, 04:19 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-31-2012, 07:58 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by DeeBye - 11-01-2012, 02:50 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 11-01-2012, 05:05 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by kandrathe - 10-29-2012, 06:12 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-31-2012, 02:50 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by DeeBye - 10-31-2012, 04:48 AM

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